In response to concerns that the discussion of some IETF topics may violate the law, the IAOC has been assured by the Host that a normal IETF meeting can be legally held in China and that no pre-screening of material or monitoring of session content is required or will be done.

"They swore they'd only put the head in. We believe 'em. We really, really, do."

The IAOC is confident that a successful IETF meeting can (and will) be held in Beijing; that it will be run in the fashion that it always has, using the tools that it always has, discussing the usual topics, and with a critical mass of the traditional participants.

"We can trust *them*. They're *not* like the *others*." Cheers, RAH ------- Begin forwarded message:

From "IAOC Chair <bob.hinden@gmail.com>"@core3.amsl.com Fri Jul 6 02:36:13 2018 From: "IAOC Chair <bob.hinden@gmail.com>"@core3.amsl.com Date: November 9, 2009 3:28:46 AM GMT-04:00 To: IETF Announcement list <ietf-announce@ietf.org> Subject: Background on IETF 79 Decision

Earlier today the IAOC announced its decision to hold IETF 79 in Beijing China. This email is intended to provide some background concerning that decision. During the course of contract negotiations with the hotel the community was asked via email lists and by survey about a specific provision in the contract. Your feedback guided us in our efforts. We are happy to report that the provision has been removed from the contract. Minutes are forthcoming, however the text of the motion that the IAOC passed unanimously by a roll call vote is below. In response to concerns that the discussion of some IETF topics may violate the law, the IAOC has been assured by the Host that a normal IETF meeting can be legally held in China and that no pre-screening of material or monitoring of session content is required or will be done. The IAOC is confident that a successful IETF meeting can (and will) be held in Beijing; that it will be run in the fashion that it always has, using the tools that it always has, discussing the usual topics, and with a critical mass of the traditional participants. We are looking forward to the IETF's first meeting in the People's Republic of China. Bob Hinden IAOC Chair ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ IETF 79 Beijing Venue Motion Adopted by IAOC 29 October 2009 Whereas the Shangri-La Beijing Hotel is able to provide qualified meeting space, technical infrastructure, and guest rooms under one roof for IETF 79, Whereas the costs for guest rooms, meeting space, and food and beverage are judged reasonable, Whereas the Special Agreements provision of the Hotel contract that had been the subject of a community survey and on IETF lists has been removed and thus the objection of many to onsite participation, Whereas the Host has negotiated a contract with the Venue under terms and conditions that are now acceptable Whereas the Host has assured the IAOC that 'a normal IETF meeting can be legally held in China and that no pre-screening of material or monitoring of session content is required or will be done,' Whereas the IAOC, based on the assurances of the Host and a history of the venue successfully hosting major international conferences that relate to our industry, believes a normal IETF meeting can be held at the venue. Whereas the IAOC heard all arguments made on the list, and made its determination on the ability to hold a successful meeting i.e. run it in a fashion as we always have, using the tools that we always have, with a critical mass of the traditional participants, discussing the usual topics. Whereas the Meetings Subcommittee has recommended the approval of the Hotel contract by the IAOC, Resolved that because the special provisions in the hotel contract have been removed and the IAOC has received assurances from the host that it can hold a normal IETF meeting as described above, the IAOC approves the venue contract between the Host and the Hotel and authorizes the Host to execute the contract with the Hotel, and Further, that the IAOC approves Beijing, China as the site for IETF 79 in November 2010 upon the execution of the venue contract and an Agreement between the Internet Society and the Host regarding the responsibilities and roles of the Internet Society under the hotel contract. ----------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ IETF-Announce mailing list IETF-Announce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce