dan@geer.org writes:

You and I are in agreement, but how do we get the seemingly (to us) plain truth across to others? I've been trying for a good while now, reaching a point where I'd almost wish for a crisis of some sort as persuasiveness is not working.

We are probably well off-topic for this list.

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