1. I still find it funny that bozos like you assume that I would vote for Gore. But that's one thread that will probably not lead anywhere with your type. 2. I did not say that the right resolution for Palm Beach County was to let them vote. I simply stated that the goal is of an election was to figure out what the electorate wanted, not whether the electorate was good at using or abusing any particular voting technique or process. Tim and company (and perhaps you) seemed to be quite absolutist in the notion that whatever shit happens on election day, that's the way it is, and no one ever get a chance to correct anything. I don't subscribe to that absolutist view. I also did not say that any flexibility or compromise resolution is only for Palm County or any other Gore-leaning counties. YOU and Tim and the rest made that assumption (hence, probably item #1 above). 3. Unlike many of you nuts, I do not subscribe to the notion that violence is the next step (even if you claim that YOU yourself wouldn't do it, but someone else will ... that's just a lot of chicken shit BS). If you want powder keg and ammo and Ryder trucks, you are on a different planet than mine. It is not impossible for me to ever pick up a gun, but it is not anywhere near top-10 on my list. I may agree with you and Tim on crypto, but I certain loath to meet either of you in person on the streets. Your anti-everything and get out of my hair anger is just too much for my tastes. Ern -----Original Message----- From: Gil Hamilton [mailto:gil_hamilton@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 11:08 AM To: cypherpunks@algebra.com Subject: Re: Rants and sour grapes ... Ernest Hua writes:

It is abundantly clear to me that much of the ranting going on here on this

list is at least 50% sour grapes.

Not to pick on Tim, but he just seems like a convenient example; it is clear in Tim's mind that he does not want the possibility of Gore being the

next president. He may have some procedural reasons to back this rant up, but he definitely does not like Gore.

You arrogant pinhead. It is you who have been whining that these poor dimwitted voters in Palm Beach County must be allowed to vote again; after all, "the voters should get what they want." In any case, if they did hold a revote in Palm Beach County, what happens after that? What if Bush is still ahead and there are more spoiled ballots? What if Gore is ahead, but there are spoiled ballots? Or, is the objective to just allow them to re-vote again and again until you and Gore get the outcome you're looking for? And what about other states? There were spoiled ballots in every state and probably every precinct, and I have no doubt there was some idiot confused by the ballot in every such case. What is the threshold at which we allow that state or precinct to vote over again? I'm beginning to think Tim is right: The fuse on this powder keg is lit. The NAACP and its ilk, along with Gore partisans like you, will never accept the outcome of this election. And holding a re-vote is the beginning of the end. Republicans aren't likely to let the Dems get away with stealing it back. In the end, I guess Slick Willie will just have to declare himself dictator-for-life and invoke martial law to "maintain order". Better stock up on ammo, folks. (Maybe Y2K was just a few months late.) - GH _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.