[dave@farber.net: [IP] The connection between NSA wiretapping and telephone industry concentration]
----- Forwarded message from David Farber <dave@farber.net> -----
Yes, the telecomms have been betraying their customers since day one, and the ISPs are following that lead. Technology companies may begin with pleasing their customers to get a foothold on the bigger market, then when the big gov contracts start to come in, then to hell with the yokels. And all plead there was no alternative, had to obey orders from the government, meet obligations to stockholders, our competitors were doing it, and so on. Bullshit. And you think the crypto companies and those peddling infosec services are not doing that, not betting on their early reputation-building to see them through suspicion they're doing what the big orgs are doing? Bullshit. Where's the criticism not only of the old telecomm whores and new ISP sluts but all the lesser known infosec rent-a-fucks eager to service the homesec and counterterror acquisition johns, technologists obeying the sales and financial wizards brought in to save the start-ups. Yep, they accepted NDAs and secrecy agreements to get in on the windfall. Hey, you got to eat, they say, then getting fatter, say hey, you got to eat well so why not flummox the yokels with security scares and warnings about suspecting all others except them. That's the natsec way of doing business, now the infosec way, the crypto way. Backdoors, a little hole in the code, blow some smoke, blow some sunshine, blame implementation, sloppy password selection, rail that perfect security is impossible, what you need is 24x7 protection, so who will ever know but us experts, want a job, damn we're busy. NSA is far from the only problem, nor the feds, nor the enemy, nor competitors, but perfect scapegoats from day one for all those betraying their customers and believers.
On 1/5/06, John Young <jya@cryptome.net> wrote:
Yes, the telecomms have been betraying their customers since day one, and the ISPs are following that lead. Technology companies may begin with pleasing their customers to get a foothold on the bigger market, then when the big gov contracts start to come in, then to hell with the yokels.
And all plead there was no alternative, had to obey orders from the government, meet obligations to stockholders, our competitors were doing it, and so on. Bullshit.
don't trust businesses nor governments with your private bits as much as possible. let your ISP freely share those encrypted payloads with whoever they please. end to end encryption has been advocated forever but perhaps now people will be a little more willing to listen. a good time for crypto geeks to be a little more willing to look at ease-of-use / HCI issues for secure decentralized networking. lots of failures to learn from... open source++ community wireless++ decentralized networks++
Where's the criticism not only of the old telecomm whores and new ISP sluts but all the lesser known infosec rent-a-fucks eager to service the homesec and counterterror acquisition johns, technologists obeying the sales and financial wizards brought in to save the start-ups.
do you have any infosec rent-a-fucks in mind? choicepoint and the other datamining privacy invasion businesses get my "fuck you buddy" approval. infosec sucked in 2005 but this is tangential to NSA/$TLA/telecom/ISP/datareseller collusion.
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coderman
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Eugen Leitl
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John Young