RE: Torture done correctly is a terminal process
Adam wrote:
The Russians, Americans and I believe others have moved from physical to psychological methods which have proven to work better than actual physical pain. I recall reading a story on Abdul Murad, the Al Qaeda member arrested in 1995 in the Philipines, where the way they finally got him to talk ws threatening him with being turned over to the Israelis.
I recently obtained an illuminating recording of a speech by a judge sitting on the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals which was given before the San Francisco Commonwealth Club. In said recording, the honorable judge proposes the issuance of formal federal torture warrants. The reader may or may not take comfort in the fact that the honorable judge firmly insists that the needles he proposes to be inserted under the fingernails of suspects should be sterile. Clearly, at least hygiene has progressed in the last 300 years. --Lucky Green
At 06:34 PM 11/20/2002 -0800, Lucky Green wrote:
I recently obtained an illuminating recording of a speech by a judge sitting on the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals which was given before the San Francisco Commonwealth Club. In said recording, the honorable judge proposes the issuance of formal federal torture warrants. The reader may or may not take comfort in the fact that the honorable judge firmly insists that the needles he proposes to be inserted under the fingernails of suspects should be sterile.
Clearly, at least hygiene has progressed in the last 300 years.
To flesh this out a little more - the judge was Stephen Trott, speaking on September 18 2002 at the Commonwealth Club. Trott credits the torture warrant idea to Alan Dershowitz, whom he describes as a good friend and a "great civil libertarian". Edited transcripts and a RealAudio recording of Trott's speech are available at <http://www.commonwealthclub.org/archive/02/02-09trott-intro.html> - Trott's discussion (and apparent endorsement) of torture begins at about 16:28 into the audio, and again during the Q&A session. -- Greg Broiles -- gbroiles@parrhesia.com -- PGP 0x26E4488c or 0x94245961
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