Poor little child pornographer
Declan McCullagh has been producing a one-sided series about a child pornographer's supposedly unjust indictment, http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,49132,00.html. Of course everything the pornographer says is taken as gospel, while the police are filthy liars. In fact they have gone so far as to plant child porn onto the computer in order to gain a conviction, in McCullagh's twisted narrative. Missing from this tidy story is the cost-benefit analysis from the part of the evil policeman. He has supposedly committed a felony that could lead to decades in prison, just to avoid the difficulty of handing the computer back with an apology, which happens all the time in police work. The real issue for cypherpunks is of course whether there is any connection between the child pornographer, Larry Benedict, and the local cypherpunk pedophile who uses the pseudonym Eric Michael Cordian. Is it possible that Cordian and Benedict are one and the same? And that Benedict would use his cypherpunk connections as Cordian to get McCullagh to produce this whitewash? How else did McCullagh get drawn into the seedy world of child pornography trading rings? Enquiring minds want to know!
Some Twit writes:
Declan McCullagh has been producing a one-sided series about a child pornographer's supposedly unjust indictment,
Even your first sentence reeks of the Sex Abuse Agenda. You cannot distinguish between readers and authors of sexually oriented material, and you think people should be instantly labeled with whatever any law enforcement goon or sex whacko chooses to accuse them of, without benefit of a trial.
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,49132,00.html. Of course everything the pornographer says is taken as gospel, while the police are filthy liars. In fact they have gone so far as to plant child porn onto the computer in order to gain a conviction, in McCullagh's twisted narrative.
Any country goofy enough to tell people what they are and are not allowed to read, think, write, or display, within the privacy of their own homes, even if no one but them is aware of it, is goofy enough to fabricate evidence in pursuit of a moral panic. "If it saves just one child..."
Missing from this tidy story is the cost-benefit analysis from the part of the evil policeman. He has supposedly committed a felony that could lead to decades in prison, just to avoid the difficulty of handing the computer back with an apology, which happens all the time in police work.
Why, of course, the child sex abuse whackos are all mentally well adjusted, completely professional, and just live for the day they can say "I'm sorry" for falsely accusing someone. Uh huh.
The real issue for cypherpunks is of course whether there is any connection between the child pornographer, Larry Benedict, and the local cypherpunk pedophile who uses the pseudonym Eric Michael Cordian.
I think you have liking pedophiles confused with hating idiots. I am a skeptic by nature, and loathe bon-bon munching Holsteins ranting about children being molested by Bad Clowns in Secret Underground Tunnels with Giraffes in them. So sue me. Any articulate person who criticizes flim-flam and nonsense these days in the area of child sexual abuse, gets called a pedophile by all the Lying Feminist Cunts. They're nuts. I'm not. End of story.
Is it possible that Cordian and Benedict are one and the same? And that Benedict would use his cypherpunk connections as Cordian to get McCullagh to produce this whitewash? How else did McCullagh get drawn into the seedy world of child pornography trading rings?
Echols put you up to this, didn't he? I hear Kinkos pulled his Internet connection and he's now accusing them of supporting "Internet Child Sex Predators and Child Pornographers." Oh when will people learn. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"
This is pretty funny. As you'll see in Part V, I got tipped off to the case by Crime Victims for a Just Society. As for the rest, well, I posted a bunch of court documents on wired.com; read them for yourself and make up your own mind. -Declan On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 07:50:24PM +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote:
Declan McCullagh has been producing a one-sided series about a child pornographer's supposedly unjust indictment, http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,49132,00.html. Of course everything the pornographer says is taken as gospel, while the police are filthy liars. In fact they have gone so far as to plant child porn onto the computer in order to gain a conviction, in McCullagh's twisted narrative. Missing from this tidy story is the cost-benefit analysis from the part of the evil policeman. He has supposedly committed a felony that could lead to decades in prison, just to avoid the difficulty of handing the computer back with an apology, which happens all the time in police work.
The real issue for cypherpunks is of course whether there is any connection between the child pornographer, Larry Benedict, and the local cypherpunk pedophile who uses the pseudonym Eric Michael Cordian. Is it possible that Cordian and Benedict are one and the same? And that Benedict would use his cypherpunk connections as Cordian to get McCullagh to produce this whitewash? How else did McCullagh get drawn into the seedy world of child pornography trading rings?
Enquiring minds want to know!
On 14 Dec 2001, at 15:02, Declan McCullagh wrote:
This is pretty funny. As you'll see in Part V, I got tipped off to the case by Crime Victims for a Just Society. As for the rest, well, I posted a bunch of court documents on wired.com; read them for yourself and make up your own mind.
-Declan
I was highly suspicious of these so-called "Crime Victims for a Just Society", so I ran their name through an anagram generator. The relevant match was "COMMITS JUSTIFICATIVE SORCERY". I trust the link to Eric Cordian and the OTO is now clear to everyone. George
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Nomen Nescio wrote:
...the police are filthy liars.
Um, yes, generally. Sure, there are exceptions, but as a rule that would be accurate.
In fact they have gone so far as to plant child porn onto the computer in order to gain a conviction, in McCullagh's twisted narrative.
So tell me Nomen, why do you find this so far-fetched?
Missing from this tidy story is the cost-benefit analysis from the part of the evil policeman. He has supposedly committed a felony that could lead to decades in prison, just to avoid the difficulty of handing the computer back with an apology, which happens all the time in police work.
Examples please? "All the time"? I have *never once* heard of such an act by an LEO, and my range of experience is both personal and anecdotal. The more usual act is that the <insert agency here> will first offer a plea, and if rebuffed, will "decline to prosecute". Some time thereafter, the former defendant *may* be offered an opportunity to recover any goods siezed in the course of the "investigation". Good luck on these items being worth anything if they _are_ returned.
The real issue for cypherpunks is of course whether there is any connection between the child pornographer, Larry Benedict, and the local cypherpunk pedophile who uses the pseudonym Eric Michael Cordian.
The Cordian nym has been discussed here before, and is pretty much acknowledged as being a composite, rather than a single individual. A few of the persons who comprise Cordian may be recognizable to those intimately familiar with them, however, as far as I am aware, the Cordian persona has never been "demasked" of it's various participants.
Is it possible that Cordian and Benedict are one and the same?
Anything is *possible*. It's possible that mattd is actually Gary Hart sans charisma. This type of idle speculation is truly pointless. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 06:34:02PM -0600, measl@mfn.org wrote:
Examples please? "All the time"? I have *never once* heard of such an act by an LEO, and my range of experience is both personal and anecdotal. The more usual act is that the <insert agency here> will first offer a plea, and if rebuffed, will "decline to prosecute". Some time thereafter, the former
Good points, all. It may be instructive to consider the case of the Maryland police officer who was convicted and sentenced to 10 years recently for turning a police dog loose on an unresisting suspect. Instead of distancing themselves from this sadistic officer, and saying that such behavior is beyond the pale, her fellow officers protested and declared a work "slowdown." The union was all for it. Don't look for a fast response from 911 calls, I guess, if you live in certain Maryland suburbs of DC. The Washington Post wrote an editorial condemning this thuggish tactic on the part of "Maryland's finest." -Declan
Quoting Nomen Nescio (nobody@dizum.com):
The real issue for cypherpunks is of course whether there is any connection between the child pornographer, Larry Benedict, and the local cypherpunk pedophile who uses the pseudonym Eric Michael Cordian. Is it possible that Cordian and Benedict are one and the same? And that Benedict would use his cypherpunk connections as Cordian to get McCullagh to produce this whitewash? How else did McCullagh get drawn into the seedy world of child pornography trading rings?
Declan is a pedophile? When did this occur? And why is that filthy pervert writing for respected media outlets? Regards, Steve -- Witness those little white men practising their alibis. -- Dean Russell
-- On 14 Dec 2001, at 19:50, Nomen Nescio wrote:
Declan McCullagh has been producing a one-sided series about a child pornographer's supposedly unjust indictment, http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,49132,00.html. Of course everything the pornographer says is taken as gospel, while the police are filthy liars. In fact they have gone so far as to plant child porn onto the computer in order to gain a conviction, in McCullagh's twisted narrative. Missing from this tidy story is the cost-benefit analysis from the part of the evil policeman. He has supposedly committed a felony that could lead to decades in prison, just to avoid the difficulty of handing the computer back with an apology, which happens all the time in police work.
Forgery of evidence, and planting of evidence, is routine. Punishment for such offences is almost unknown, even when trials flagrantly show such events. Nor have computers ever been returned with an apology, though on sometimes they have been returned. Cops, unlike mafiosi, never apologize. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG nKkjEJa5GfUc7pTTp51ElVtCdZhb4gZz8Oe2yOOz 4oaN5pQyENZ6t9LEXd0VJRwdSnEGFxK8OHohRpvzh
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Steve Thompson