Feingold amendment text URL (was Re: CDT: congressional action call - before Friday morning, October 12, 2001)
I would -prefer- to read the text for myself too, and I'm pissed off at CDT, EFF, Congressional Record, and you for that matter, for not being on the case earlier. If it came down to it I think I'd trust CDT EFF et. al. enough -it's not like trusting Ashcroft or Shrub- but of course you're right. The amendment text is at http://www.cdt.org/security/011011s1510feingold.pdf
CDT is on the right track, but I'd be hesitant to call my senators and endorse Feingold's amendments until I knew what they said. The CDT alert is silent on details. That's a shame, since they could have easily included a summary of the amendments (which I really will put online soon, along with their text).
-Declan
On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 11:14:37PM -0700, citizenQ wrote:
Dear Activist:
Things are moving very fast on Capitol Hill. Legislation to expand government surveillance will be considered by the Senate (and maybe the House) on Thursday, October 11.
In the Senate, Sen. Russ Feingold is planning to offer amendments Thursday morning that will address some of the privacy concerns raised by the pending bills, by requiring government surveillance to be more focused and subject to meaningful judicial controls. CDT supports the Feingold amendments.
You can make a difference. Call your Senators in Washington right away and let them know that you think civil liberties should be part of the balance as we move forward to protect our country from terrorism. Urge them to support the Feingold privacy amendments
BACKGROUND
Following the horrendous attacks of September 11, it is clear that US anti-terrorism efforts need to be improved. Unfortunately, there has been little time to develop a response that is effective and does not unnecessarily infringe civil liberties. Legislation moving quickly through Congress involves some fundamental changes in the surveillance laws. Most of the changes are not limited to terrorism cases, but concern all crimes and all intelligence investigations.
Among other things, the bills would:
* Allow FBI to seize any and all stored records (medical records, educational records, stored e-mail) in intelligence cases without a search warrant.
* Allow computer system operators to authorize government surveillance without a court order (the computer trespasser provision).
* Authorize roving taps in intelligence cases without clear guidelines, allowing government to monitor pay phones, library computers, cell phones without first determining who is using the device.
* Allow secret searches (searches without notice at the time of the search) in all criminal cases.
* Extend government surveillance under minimal standards to broad categories of Internet data - all "routing, addressing and signaling information" (the "pen register" provision).
For full background the current civil liberties issues with the bill, please see CDT's latest policy post -- http://www.cdt.org/publications/pp_7.10.shtml
Also, the New York Times on October 10 explained the current situation in the Senate and Sen Feingold's concerns-- http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/10/national/10RIGH.html
WHAT YOU CAN DO--MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD
1. Call your your Senators
[www.vote-smart.org can tell you who your sens are (duh)]
Tell the person who answers the phone that you hope your Senator will support the Feingold privacy amendment to the terrorism bill, so that it adequately protects civil liberties when giving the government new surveillance powers.
Use these words if you feel tongue-tied:
Staffer: Hello, Sen. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX office.
You: Hello. I'm a constituent calling to urge the Senator to support the Feingold privacy amendments to the anti-terrorism bill. Government needs to fight terrorism, but the bill fails to protect privacy. I'm concerned about the provisions on Internet surveillance and roving wiretaps. I support the Feingold amendments setting clear limits on government surveillance.
Staffer: I'll tell the Senator. Thanks, bye!
2. Let CDT know how it went! Go to http://www.cdt.org/action/feedback.cgi?membid=casr and use the feedback form to tell us what happened. Or you can send an email back to me at mclark@cdt.org.
3. Lastly, please forward this message to other individuals interested in protecting privacy and free expression on the Internet. They can find information about their Senators at http://www.cdt.org/action/. But they need to act right away. Forward this message until Friday morning, October 12, 2001.
PLEASE NOTE: We are asking you to call your Senators in Washington because studies have shown that this is the most effective way to make a difference over a short period of time. By the time the office reads your email or letter it will probably be too late and a call into the district office does not have the same impact when the Senator is in Washington.
-- To subscribe to CDT's Activist Network, sign up at: http://www.cdt.org/join/
If you ever wish to remove yourself from the list, unsubscribe at: http://www.cdt.org/action/unsubscribe.shtml
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Fortunately, I have other things to do in my life than please you. I placed the text online as soon as I could, which was this morning: http://www.wartimeliberty.com/article.pl?sid=01/10/11/1430203 -Declan At 08:39 AM 10/11/01 -0700, citizenQ wrote:
I would -prefer- to read the text for myself too, and I'm pissed off at CDT, EFF, Congressional Record, and you for that matter, for not being on the case earlier. If it came down to it I think I'd trust CDT EFF et. al. enough -it's not like trusting Ashcroft or Shrub- but of course you're right.
The amendment text is at http://www.cdt.org/security/011011s1510feingold.pdf
Hi all, We were on the case. But we did not get a postable copy of the text until Thursday morning and it was posted on our site. A fact sheet on Sen. Feingold's amendments is now available at http://www.cdt.org/security/011011feingoldfactsheet.shtml You can also find out who your Senators are at CDT's site at http://www.cdt.org/action/feingold/ or http://www.cdt.org/action/contactcongress.shml Michael
I would -prefer- to read the text for myself too, and I'm pissed off at CDT, EFF, Congressional Record, and you for that matter, for not being on the case earlier. If it came down to it I think I'd trust CDT EFF et. al. enough -it's not like trusting Ashcroft or Shrub- but of course you're right.
The amendment text is at http://www.cdt.org/security/011011s1510feingold.pdf
CDT is on the right track, but I'd be hesitant to call my senators and endorse Feingold's amendments until I knew what they said. The CDT alert is silent on details. That's a shame, since they could have easily included a summary of the amendments (which I really will put online soon, along with their text).
-Declan
On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 11:14:37PM -0700, citizenQ wrote:
Dear Activist:
Things are moving very fast on Capitol Hill. Legislation to expand government surveillance will be considered by the Senate (and maybe the House) on Thursday, October 11.
In the Senate, Sen. Russ Feingold is planning to offer amendments Thursday morning that will address some of the privacy concerns raised by the pending bills, by requiring government surveillance to be more focused and subject to meaningful judicial controls. CDT supports the Feingold amendments.
You can make a difference. Call your Senators in Washington right away and let them know that you think civil liberties should be part of the balance as we move forward to protect our country from terrorism. Urge them to support the Feingold privacy amendments
BACKGROUND
Following the horrendous attacks of September 11, it is clear that US anti-terrorism efforts need to be improved. Unfortunately, there has been little time to develop a response that is effective and does not unnecessarily infringe civil liberties. Legislation moving quickly through Congress involves some fundamental changes in the surveillance laws. Most of the changes are not limited to terrorism cases, but concern all crimes and all intelligence investigations.
Among other things, the bills would:
* Allow FBI to seize any and all stored records (medical records, educational records, stored e-mail) in intelligence cases without a search warrant.
* Allow computer system operators to authorize government surveillance without a court order (the computer trespasser provision).
* Authorize roving taps in intelligence cases without clear guidelines, allowing government to monitor pay phones, library computers, cell phones without first determining who is using the device.
* Allow secret searches (searches without notice at the time of the search) in all criminal cases.
* Extend government surveillance under minimal standards to broad categories of Internet data - all "routing, addressing and signaling information" (the "pen register" provision).
For full background the current civil liberties issues with the bill, please see CDT's latest policy post -- http://www.cdt.org/publications/pp_7.10.shtml
Also, the New York Times on October 10 explained the current situation in the Senate and Sen Feingold's concerns-- http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/10/national/10RIGH.html
WHAT YOU CAN DO--MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD
1. Call your your Senators
[www.vote-smart.org can tell you who your sens are (duh)]
Tell the person who answers the phone that you hope your Senator will support the Feingold privacy amendment to the terrorism bill, so that it adequately protects civil liberties when giving the government new surveillance powers.
Use these words if you feel tongue-tied:
Staffer: Hello, Sen. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX office.
You: Hello. I'm a constituent calling to urge the Senator to support the Feingold privacy amendments to the anti-terrorism bill. Government needs to fight terrorism, but the bill fails to protect privacy. I'm concerned about the provisions on Internet surveillance and roving wiretaps. I support the Feingold amendments setting clear limits on government surveillance.
Staffer: I'll tell the Senator. Thanks, bye!
2. Let CDT know how it went! Go to http://www.cdt.org/action/feedback.cgi?membid=casr and use the feedback form to tell us what happened. Or you can send an email back to me at mclark@cdt.org.
3. Lastly, please forward this message to other individuals interested in protecting privacy and free expression on the Internet. They can find information about their Senators at http://www.cdt.org/action/. But they need to act right away. Forward this message until Friday morning, October 12, 2001.
PLEASE NOTE: We are asking you to call your Senators in Washington because studies have shown that this is the most effective way to make a difference over a short period of time. By the time the office reads your email or letter it will probably be too late and a call into the district office does not have the same impact when the Senator is in Washington.
-- To subscribe to CDT's Activist Network, sign up at: http://www.cdt.org/join/
If you ever wish to remove yourself from the list, unsubscribe at: http://www.cdt.org/action/unsubscribe.shtml
If you just want to change your address, you should unsubscribe yourself and then sign up again or contact: mclark@cdt.org
-- Michael Clark, Webmaster Center for Democracy and Technology 1634 Eye Street NW, Suite 1100 Washington, DC 20006 voice: 202-637-9800 fax: 202-637-0968 mclark@cdt.org http://www.cdt.org/ PGP Key available on keyservers Join our Activist Network! Your participation can make a difference! http://www.cdt.org/join/
Michael, Indeed you guys were (and are) on top of things. But the factsheet (http://www.cdt.org/security/011011feingoldfactsheet.shtml) has been deleted. -Declan On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 11:57:57AM -0400, Michael Clark wrote:
Hi all,
We were on the case. But we did not get a postable copy of the text until Thursday morning and it was posted on our site.
A fact sheet on Sen. Feingold's amendments is now available at http://www.cdt.org/security/011011feingoldfactsheet.shtml
You can also find out who your Senators are at CDT's site at http://www.cdt.org/action/feingold/ or http://www.cdt.org/action/contactcongress.shml Michael
I would -prefer- to read the text for myself too, and I'm pissed off at CDT, EFF, Congressional Record, and you for that matter, for not being on the case earlier. If it came down to it I think I'd trust CDT EFF et. al. enough -it's not like trusting Ashcroft or Shrub- but of course you're right.
The amendment text is at http://www.cdt.org/security/011011s1510feingold.pdf
CDT is on the right track, but I'd be hesitant to call my senators and endorse Feingold's amendments until I knew what they said. The CDT alert is silent on details. That's a shame, since they could have easily included a summary of the amendments (which I really will put online soon, along with their text).
-Declan
On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 11:14:37PM -0700, citizenQ wrote:
Dear Activist:
Things are moving very fast on Capitol Hill. Legislation to expand government surveillance will be considered by the Senate (and maybe the House) on Thursday, October 11.
In the Senate, Sen. Russ Feingold is planning to offer amendments Thursday morning that will address some of the privacy concerns raised by the pending bills, by requiring government surveillance to be more focused and subject to meaningful judicial controls. CDT supports the Feingold amendments.
You can make a difference. Call your Senators in Washington right away and let them know that you think civil liberties should be part of the balance as we move forward to protect our country from terrorism. Urge them to support the Feingold privacy amendments
BACKGROUND
Following the horrendous attacks of September 11, it is clear that US anti-terrorism efforts need to be improved. Unfortunately, there has been little time to develop a response that is effective and does not unnecessarily infringe civil liberties. Legislation moving quickly through Congress involves some fundamental changes in the surveillance laws. Most of the changes are not limited to terrorism cases, but concern all crimes and all intelligence investigations.
Among other things, the bills would:
* Allow FBI to seize any and all stored records (medical records, educational records, stored e-mail) in intelligence cases without a search warrant.
* Allow computer system operators to authorize government surveillance without a court order (the computer trespasser provision).
* Authorize roving taps in intelligence cases without clear guidelines, allowing government to monitor pay phones, library computers, cell phones without first determining who is using the device.
* Allow secret searches (searches without notice at the time of the search) in all criminal cases.
* Extend government surveillance under minimal standards to broad categories of Internet data - all "routing, addressing and signaling information" (the "pen register" provision).
For full background the current civil liberties issues with the bill, please see CDT's latest policy post -- http://www.cdt.org/publications/pp_7.10.shtml
Also, the New York Times on October 10 explained the current situation in the Senate and Sen Feingold's concerns-- http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/10/national/10RIGH.html
WHAT YOU CAN DO--MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD
1. Call your your Senators
[www.vote-smart.org can tell you who your sens are (duh)]
Tell the person who answers the phone that you hope your Senator will support the Feingold privacy amendment to the terrorism bill, so that it adequately protects civil liberties when giving the government new surveillance powers.
Use these words if you feel tongue-tied:
Staffer: Hello, Sen. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX office.
You: Hello. I'm a constituent calling to urge the Senator to support the Feingold privacy amendments to the anti-terrorism bill. Government needs to fight terrorism, but the bill fails to protect privacy. I'm concerned about the provisions on Internet surveillance and roving wiretaps. I support the Feingold amendments setting clear limits on government surveillance.
Staffer: I'll tell the Senator. Thanks, bye!
2. Let CDT know how it went! Go to http://www.cdt.org/action/feedback.cgi?membid=casr and use the feedback form to tell us what happened. Or you can send an email back to me at mclark@cdt.org.
3. Lastly, please forward this message to other individuals interested in protecting privacy and free expression on the Internet. They can find information about their Senators at http://www.cdt.org/action/. But they need to act right away. Forward this message until Friday morning, October 12, 2001.
PLEASE NOTE: We are asking you to call your Senators in Washington because studies have shown that this is the most effective way to make a difference over a short period of time. By the time the office reads your email or letter it will probably be too late and a call into the district office does not have the same impact when the Senator is in Washington.
-- To subscribe to CDT's Activist Network, sign up at: http://www.cdt.org/join/
If you ever wish to remove yourself from the list, unsubscribe at: http://www.cdt.org/action/unsubscribe.shtml
If you just want to change your address, you should unsubscribe yourself and then sign up again or contact: mclark@cdt.org
-- Michael Clark, Webmaster Center for Democracy and Technology 1634 Eye Street NW, Suite 1100 Washington, DC 20006 voice: 202-637-9800 fax: 202-637-0968 mclark@cdt.org http://www.cdt.org/ PGP Key available on keyservers
Join our Activist Network! Your participation can make a difference! http://www.cdt.org/join/
Unfortunately within only a few hours of having the information posted online, I was told that the fact sheet and the amendments were already out of date, so I should remove the information. I hope to have new information Friday morning, which is an eternity I realize. I'll post it as soon as I get it. Michael
Michael,
Indeed you guys were (and are) on top of things. But the factsheet (http://www.cdt.org/security/011011feingoldfactsheet.shtml) has been deleted.
-Declan
On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 11:57:57AM -0400, Michael Clark wrote:
Hi all,
We were on the case. But we did not get a postable copy of the text until Thursday morning and it was posted on our site.
A fact sheet on Sen. Feingold's amendments is now available at http://www.cdt.org/security/011011feingoldfactsheet.shtml
You can also find out who your Senators are at CDT's site at http://www.cdt.org/action/feingold/ or http://www.cdt.org/action/contactcongress.shml Michael
-- Michael Clark, Webmaster Center for Democracy and Technology 1634 Eye Street NW, Suite 1100 Washington, DC 20006 voice: 202-637-9800 fax: 202-637-0968 mclark@cdt.org http://www.cdt.org/ PGP Key available on keyservers Join our Activist Network! Your participation can make a difference! http://www.cdt.org/join/
Ah, understood. The problem is that the Senate is going to be debating the bill -- and the amendments -- in an hour or two. :) -Declan At 06:24 PM 10/11/01 -0400, Michael Clark wrote:
Unfortunately within only a few hours of having the information posted online, I was told that the fact sheet and the amendments were already out of date, so I should remove the information. I hope to have new information Friday morning, which is an eternity I realize. I'll post it as soon as I get it. Michael
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