-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,63316,00.html "This is going to push the envelope on a lot of fronts," said George Markowsky, president of Ayers Island LLC. "The goal is to detect anyone coming onto the island at any point, and to follow them if they exhibit suspicious behavior." When an envelope is pushed, especially in this case, it does so ALL fronts. The scenario is that *Man creates best-of surveillance and Good-vs-Evil differential/profiling system* with the reaction from this being *Evil changes to look more like Good*. Leaders and people alike often don't see validity in the second. Now don't get me wrong, I want the Ayers Island project to happen. I believe the work put in to this island and the boundaries it will push have already been pushed and are essential if not inevitable to happen in a more public manner. I'm just trying to find a way to use this to remind people of the forgotten effects. So, I'm curious if anyone would want to work together in building a simple online forum for chronicling the eventual subversion of their profiling system? The objective would be to track vulnerabilities in the methods used to determine "suspicious behavior" more so than technical vulnerabilities (such as, say, the fence system.) It would not be directly involved with any activity itself. Example content might be a story from someone that found a way to roam with a false ID, or no ID at all... or footage of reverse surveillance (see: http://wearcam.org/acm_mm96.htm ) fain://nathan http://cypherpoet.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3-nr1 (Windows XP) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAp0ahveagdEkPM4ARAt2TAKCP/rB5ORnqId+dIAXlB1ivng1ljgCfdKSe qObiGrp0/K4ID/fkPW+jjKw= =j1JH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----