CDR: Courts interfering with election
I thought I was jaded, but this is too much even for me to believe. A judge in St. Louis has ordered the polls kept open later, until 10 pm local time. The effect will be to let more inner city, Democrat-leaning voters vote. The rural and suburban polling places will close at the normal times. Whew. Democrats are elated that more of their supporters will be able to vote in the extra hours. A similar measure was turned down in another state (Kansas?). Democrats in other urban areas are hustling to see if they can get their own bought judges involved in the process. A stunning theft of the election. If these "late Democrats" turn out to be the margin of victory, this will energize the anger of the Republicans. Amazing. --Tim May -- ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.
At 04:18 PM 11/7/00 -0800, Tim May wrote:
I thought I was jaded, but this is too much even for me to believe.
A judge in St. Louis has ordered the polls kept open later, until 10 pm local time. The effect will be to let more inner city, Democrat-leaning voters vote.
The rural and suburban polling places will close at the normal times.
Vote late and often! It's especially useful if there are enough Nader votes that the Democrats need some last-minute metabolically challenged voters to help out. After the 1990 census, New Jersey was redoing the gerrymander to help solidify Republican and Democrat districts. They wanted to make a majority-Hispanic district, so they expanded the boundaries of one district to include Rahway Prison, which has a lot of blacks and Hispanics in it..... Who are mostly convicted felons, and can't vote. Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart@pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639
At 4:18 PM -0800 11/7/00, Tim May wrote:
I thought I was jaded, but this is too much even for me to believe.
A judge in St. Louis has ordered the polls kept open later, until 10 pm local time. The effect will be to let more inner city, Democrat-leaning voters vote.
The rural and suburban polling places will close at the normal times.
Whew.
Democrats are elated that more of their supporters will be able to vote in the extra hours.
A similar measure was turned down in another state (Kansas?).
Democrats in other urban areas are hustling to see if they can get their own bought judges involved in the process.
A stunning theft of the election. If these "late Democrats" turn out to be the margin of victory, this will energize the anger of the Republicans.
I just had a Cypherpunks numbskull (who was also actively on the wrong side in the Elian debate) send me private mail asking why I would object to this. His exact words were: "It's hard to imagine that someone quite disgusted with our pseudo-democratic government will argue against ensuring that everyone has a chance to vote ..." Sometimes I despair. We may need to make a list of the Cypherpunks idiots here and "mark them for deletion" during the next GC. --Tim May -- ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.
At 4:18 PM -0800 on 11/7/00, Tim May wrote:
A judge in St. Louis has ordered the polls kept open later
Circuit cort judges just threw it out... Cheers, RAH -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah@ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Tim May wrote:
A judge in St. Louis has ordered the polls kept open later, until 10 pm local time. The effect will be to let more inner city, Democrat-leaning voters vote.
A similar measure was turned down in another state (Kansas?).
Kansas City, Missouri, actually (IIRC, natch). The whole point, really, isn't so much about the Presidential race as it is to try to elect the dead guy to Congress. I can only wonder at the logic of this whole charade -- yeah, the lines were a little long (I'm in a St. Louis 'burb, and I voted at 8 a.m.), but that's pretty much par for the course. (The ridiculous can o' worms that one opens up, if it turns out the late Mel Carnahan wins his election, is one that I'd rather not deal with at one in the morning. :) ...dave
At 7:15 AM +0000 11/8/00, David E. Smith wrote:
On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Tim May wrote:
A judge in St. Louis has ordered the polls kept open later, until 10 pm local time. The effect will be to let more inner city, Democrat-leaning voters vote.
A similar measure was turned down in another state (Kansas?).
Kansas City, Missouri, actually (IIRC, natch).
The whole point, really, isn't so much about the Presidential race as it is to try to elect the dead guy to Congress.
I can only wonder at the logic of this whole charade -- yeah, the lines were a little long (I'm in a St. Louis 'burb, and I voted at 8 a.m.), but that's pretty much par for the course.
(The ridiculous can o' worms that one opens up, if it turns out the late Mel Carnahan wins his election, is one that I'd rather not deal with at one in the morning. :)
The dead guy won by a narrow margin. It'll be interesting to do the calculations on how many "late voters" were let in after the official polling hours because of this Democrat judge's actions. The last time an election was stolen by these kinds of fraudulent measures, the 1960 election, the fraudster was terminated with extreme prejudice a few years later. --Tim May -- ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.
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