Two points: People interested in finding wireless access points, and tech info about the same, should look at GAWD: http://www.shmoo.com/gawd/ BAWUG: http://www.bawug.org The Starbucks access points will apparently require Microsoft Wallet, and some kind of charge-per-minute software. Peter Trei

---------- From: Eugene Leitl[SMTP:Eugene.Leitl@lrz.uni-muenchen.de] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 5:37 AM To: David Honig Cc: Sampo Syreeni; Ray Dillinger; cypherpunks@lne.com Subject: Re: Open 802.11b wireless access points and remailers

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, David Honig wrote:

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Bear has a point; no matter how you spread or hop, you're an emitter. Shoot anything that radiates from 50 Mhz-IR.

Ultrabroadband is currently hard to triangulate, unless you're part of the network, where TOF mutual triangulation is part of service.

You could triangulate ultrabroadband with an antenna array, but in real life the reflexion and multipath will make it difficult.