Bobhood is never a light burden, as I'm sure RAH can attest --bob Tyler Durden wrote:

I thought JR "Bob" Dobbs got beamed up to that comet with those LA Koolaid kooks... -TD

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From: "R.W. (Bob) Erickson" To: cypherpunks@al-qaeda.net Subject: Word Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 18:42:01 -0500

word

You want me to say what I mean.

You expect me to not waste your time, but you dont know why I am here yet.

So I tell you that I am here to show you something interesting in words.

You can be sure that I'm only talking about words and not about things that matter. You know the difference, between words and things that matter, just like I do.

Sometimes when people get to using fancy words, they forget the difference. Between you and me - we'll speak plainly - the country needs more clarity, 'cause we cant afford to forget what matters.

We may not agree on much, but I'm certain that you really do see how there's stuff that matters. I respect you for this. No doubt we can agree that it's frustrating at times, to talk with smart asses who lack this common sense.

Maybe you haven't felt like knocking some sense into this sort of fool, but I bet you know what I mean. Like the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him talk plain.

So I've been thinking that maybe I can take a crack at translating their alien thinking, some of their "expert" science and philosophy mumbo jumbo to real talk. The Lord knows, we cant hope to make sense of all the babble. If you can give me a bit more of your time, I do believe that I can hook you up with a practical explanation for why those brainy idiots keep going on and on. They get themselves all worked up to a dizzy, trying to talk sense. Maybe we can do better.

Wish me luck!

--bob

Steve Furlong wrote:

On Sat, 2004-12-04 at 20:42, R.W. (Bob) Erickson wrote:

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Bobhood is never a light burden, as I'm sure RAH can attest

Bobbittization would make the burden lighter.

To be bobbed is never the goal, but bobless fear steers the undifferentiated bob along conventional paths, to the abattoir

Neil Johnson wrote:

On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 08:46 -0500, R.W. (Bob) Erickson wrote:

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To be bobbed is never the goal, but bobless fear steers the undifferentiated bob along conventional paths, to the abattoir

Where is Tim May when when you need him? :-)

Probably busy in his hilltop bunker fiddling with prion generators ..cpunks write code

R.A. Hettinga wrote:

At 8:06 AM -0600 12/5/04, Neil Johnson wrote:

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Where is Tim May when when you need him? :-)

Nah, this is mere Younglish wierdness.

You have to talk about useless eaters to be totally mayified...

Cheers, RAH

John would warn you about the organ cuts Tim would rave about the sizzle stake I'm just scoping out the meat-eye view through the grinder. --bob of mad cow metephors

Random racist ranting is also required. There are some racist assholes currently posting on cpunks, but none have quite the May flavor.

Yes, in comparison with May they are basically poseurs. Oh, and in light of the Bob conversation, shouldn't we be describing 'RAH' (a Bob) as 'RAHWEH'? -TD

Bonus question:

Who is the author of the origin question that inspired the copycats?

Well, I remember May posting it but I don't think he was the ultimate author. I suspect whoever posted it recently in fact dug it out of the archives and re-posted it, a particularly lame maneuver if so. OR...perhaps ole' May is gettin' a little lonely out there! -TD

--- Steve Thompson wrote:

--- Tyler Durden wrote:

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Bonus question:

Who is the author of the origin question that inspired the copycats?

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Well, I remember May posting it but I don't think he was the ultimate author. I suspect whoever posted it recently in fact dug it out of the

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archives and re-posted it, a particularly lame maneuver if so.

Wrong. The origin quote is "Who is Socrates, now that we need him" written by Richard Mitchell as the title of chapter one in "The Gift of Fire". Mitchell may have cribbed the line from another source, but in this context it is the origin quote. Ms. Harsh is in posession of the original physical vector, having stolen it, but only the spooks will be unofficially aware of that facet of the context.

On further reflection, I think it is necessary to go out on a limb and suggest a correction to my comment above. I "verified" the original quotation from a quick google search. That was probably not enough. My recollection suggests that the original quote should be "where is Socrates now that we need him". I rather suspect that the people who 0wn the upstream pipe from my points of access are toying with their ability to interpose their data in place of quasi-authoritative texts. I cannot consult the physical document owing to the fact that its rarity is such that there are no copies available at either the Metro Central Reference Library, and I have no access to the stacks at the University of Toronto Robarts library. Someone who does may consult the book themselves with its call number: B72 .M55 1987. Further, Ms. Harsh may be said to posess the probable physical vector. I cannot say what level of participation she has had in this travesty owing to the fact that after she perjured herself in court in 2001, she has entirely avoided using her actual identity online. However, she could answer the question with her copy of the book in principle if there were any way to compel her testimony. It is possible that the quote is being used as a source by online spooks by virtue of the text's presence in their funky everything database. Any way you look at it, the phrase "tax money well spent" would seem to apply here. Regards, Steve ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

R.A. Hettinga wrote:

At 3:34 PM -0500 12/6/04, Steve Thompson wrote:

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I rather suspect that the people who 0wn the upstream pipe from my points of access are toying with their ability to interpose their data in place of quasi-authoritative texts.

Oh, *my*...

Where is Detweiller, now that we need him?

Huh? I thought that *was* Detweiller! -- Roy M. Silvernail is roy@rant-central.com, and you're not "It's just this little chromium switch, here." - TFT SpamAssassin->procmail->/dev/null->bliss http://www.rant-central.com

At 10:12 PM -0500 12/6/04, Steve Thompson wrote:

But I cannot prove it.

Tee hee... Cheers, RAH -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 17:00, R.A. Hettinga wrote:

At 3:34 PM -0500 12/6/04, Steve Thompson wrote:

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I rather suspect that the people who 0wn the upstream pipe from my points of access are toying with their ability to interpose their data in place of quasi-authoritative texts.

Oh, *my*...

Where is Detweiller, now that we need him?

That was bad enough, but for a real "oh my" moment, see elsewhere in Thompson's missive:

Any way you look at it, the phrase "tax money well spent" would seem to apply here.

I can't think of any way to use that phrase non-sarcastically.

--- "R.A. Hettinga" wrote:

At 3:34 PM -0500 12/6/04, Steve Thompson wrote:

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I rather suspect that the people who 0wn the upstream pipe from my points of access are toying with their ability to interpose their data in place of quasi-authoritative texts.

Oh, *my*...

Come on, tell us what you really think. Anyhow, when I used to post to usenet via google, I experienced a number of incidents in which there were minor changes to the text of articles I wrote and posted. I also regularly noticed people posting messages that were being exempted from the normal posting delay. Articles that arrived at google were subject to a delay of a few hours before their index entries propogated across to the entirety of the index search cluster. Some individuals evidently had acces to the google database such that they were able to put their (suitably Date:ed) articles at the head of the posting queues. The apparent 0wn3rs of the continential US 1nt3rn3t are clearly making sure they have capabilities that they may use to appear as if they are super-3l33t. Why, it wouldn't suprise me if I were to find that some of them are busy playing 'alien' to unsuspecting unsophisticates at this very moment. Actually, it's a little more likely that they are playing "you are trapped in the Matrix" on the gullible, isn't it.

Where is Detweiller, now that we need him?

Probably off somewhere consulting in the industry, having tired of the noise and wearied by the futility of hitting on Tim May. I think that I have better taste, personally, and am waiting for the chance to make a pass at Condi. Perhaps after the current presidential term she'll have some time for me.

;-)

Is that a sincere emoticon? Regards, Steve ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca