Sandman wrote: # # The part I like is that the wording suggests that the writer # is surprises that a population can have a lot of guns and "yet # maintains a remarkably low homicide and armed crime rate." Duh. A different society. It wouldn't work here. ---- If you have a dent on your car, your Swiss neighbors will turn you in to the police. Seriously.
"George@Orwellian.Org" asserted:
A different society.
It [a heavily armed population with a low homicide/crime rate] wouldn't work here.
I'm not sure where George's "here" is, but in the US the facts say otherwise. Every state that has increased the availability of concealed carry permits has seen dramatic decreases in crime (a 40% decrease in the case of Florida). For the last score of years, crime has been decreasing per capital as the number of guns in the US has increased both per capita and absolutely. The state that has NO restrictions on concealed carry, Vermont, is one of the very safest states in the union. S a n d y
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 George@Orwellian.Org wrote:
Sandman wrote: # # The part I like is that the wording suggests that the writer # is surprises that a population can have a lot of guns and "yet # maintains a remarkably low homicide and armed crime rate." Duh.
A different society.
It wouldn't work here.
People are surprising. Even the most idiotic can show a grain of common sense once they realize that their accustomed prey is carrying. I'd bet that, after an initial few killings, an amazingly polite and civil society would develop. Bear
At 04:19 PM 7/20/01 -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote:
People are surprising. Even the most idiotic can show a grain of common sense once they realize that their accustomed prey is carrying. I'd bet that, after an initial few killings, an amazingly polite and civil society would develop.
Bear
Think of gun ownership as innoculation. Highly-vaccinated populations are not as succeptible to plagues as unvaccinated populations. There is a slight risk in getting innoculated, but (because of decreased populatiton permeability) there is also a network ('fax') effect where the more innoculated, the better for all (even the unvaccinated). Gun:Criminal::Vaccine:Pathogen
On 20 Jul 2001, at 16:19, Ray Dillinger wrote:
People are surprising. Even the most idiotic can show a grain of common sense once they realize that their accustomed prey is carrying. I'd bet that, after an initial few killings, an amazingly polite and civil society would develop.
"An armed society is a polite society." - RAH -- Roy M. Silvernail [ ] roy@scytale.com DNRC Minister Plenipotentiary of All Things Confusing, Software Division PGP Key 0x1AF39331 : 71D5 2EA2 4C27 D569 D96B BD40 D926 C05E Key available from pubkey@scytale.com I charge to process unsolicited commercial email
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 George@Orwellian.Org wrote:
Sandman wrote: # # The part I like is that the wording suggests that the writer # is surprises that a population can have a lot of guns and "yet # maintains a remarkably low homicide and armed crime rate." Duh.
A different society.
It wouldn't work here.
It does work here, Here, there are a lot of guns in the population. In places "Here" where there aren't any idiotic gun laws, the law abiding peacable folks keep guns. In these places there are remarkably low homicide and armed crime rates. There is a direct correlation between the restrictive gun laws and crime, the higher the crime, the tighter the restriction on peacable citizens right to bear arms. The tighter the restriction on peaceable citizens right to bear arms, the higher the crime. Why this simple logic eludes the anti-gunners is a complete and total mystery to me. It can only be deleberate.
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