CDR: CIA proctologists
US Citizenship is required, as is successful completion of a medical evaluation, polygraph interview and an extensive background investigation. A "medical evaluation"?? http://www.odci.gov/cia/employment/jobpostings/architectstud.htm
On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 anonymous@openpgp.net wrote:
US Citizenship is required, as is successful completion of a medical evaluation, polygraph interview and an extensive background investigation.
A "medical evaluation"??
http://www.odci.gov/cia/employment/jobpostings/architectstud.htm
Pretty standard procedure. A medical evaluation can detect drug users, alcohol users, people whose brain chemistry is different, etc. It can also detect people who are likely to be more or less expensive to insure, people who need drugs (from insulin to psychopharmaceuticals) to function normally, and people with more than a "reasonable" number of knife-fight scars, which might indicate that someone is too rash or hotheaded. It also gets them DNA samples etc, which they can later use to positively identify you if you ever get implicated in anything criminal or controversial. And finally, they will wind up knowing all about your tattoos and brands if any, which will point out people who were in certain gangs and societies during certain time periods. That's just part of the job. If you're going to handle secret material for any government, that government will want to know everything about you no matter how invasive, and they will want to own every possible bit of leverage anyone can have on you, and they want to be damned sure that no one else has any leverage on you that they don't know about. Medical examinations are just one aspect of that. I bet they audit someone's taxes for the last six years before they hire them, too. Bear
Speaking of which, check out Brookings' very nice "survivor's guide" on surviving the executive branch appointment/confirmation process. Background on security investigations a bonus. -Declan On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 08:56:49PM -0500, Ray Dillinger wrote:
On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 anonymous@openpgp.net wrote:
US Citizenship is required, as is successful completion of a medical evaluation, polygraph interview and an extensive background investigation.
A "medical evaluation"??
http://www.odci.gov/cia/employment/jobpostings/architectstud.htm
Pretty standard procedure. A medical evaluation can detect drug users, alcohol users, people whose brain chemistry is different, etc. It can also detect people who are likely to be more or less expensive to insure, people who need drugs (from insulin to psychopharmaceuticals) to function normally, and people with more than a "reasonable" number of knife-fight scars, which might indicate that someone is too rash or hotheaded.
It also gets them DNA samples etc, which they can later use to positively identify you if you ever get implicated in anything criminal or controversial.
And finally, they will wind up knowing all about your tattoos and brands if any, which will point out people who were in certain gangs and societies during certain time periods.
That's just part of the job. If you're going to handle secret material for any government, that government will want to know everything about you no matter how invasive, and they will want to own every possible bit of leverage anyone can have on you, and they want to be damned sure that no one else has any leverage on you that they don't know about.
Medical examinations are just one aspect of that.
I bet they audit someone's taxes for the last six years before they hire them, too.
Bear
At 07:35 PM 11/15/00 -0500, anonymous@openpgp.net wrote:
US Citizenship is required, as is successful completion of a medical evaluation, polygraph interview and an extensive background investigation.
A "medical evaluation"??
It used to be quite common for big companies to do that, before the advent of politically-motivated drug testing. You do want to know if your employees are healthy, especially if they're doing physical labor or driving or you're spending a lot of money training them or if you're self-funding your medical insurance program. Also, the military gives people physicals for similar reasons, and the CIA's sort of related. Polygraphs, of course, are bogus.
http://www.odci.gov/cia/employment/jobpostings/architectstud.htm
If they're looking for an Architect Stud, we've got John Young here, so this post is directed to the right place :-) Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart@pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639
Ray Dillinger wrote:
That's just part of the job. If you're going to handle secret material for any government, that government will want to know everything about you no matter how invasive, and they will want to own every possible bit of leverage anyone can have on you, and they want to be damned sure that no one else has any leverage on you that they don't know about.
Medical examinations are just one aspect of that.
I bet they audit someone's taxes for the last six years before they hire them, too.
Current fuss over here on the downwind side of the Atlantic is the Metropolitan police (i.e. local plod for all of greater London *except* the City of London and some railway stations...) wanting permission to hire convicted criminals. The law prevents them hiring anyone with any recorded conviction. They say they can't get enough people at the moment, and as about 20% of adult men have a criminal conviction they would like to treat each case "on its merits", to increase the field of possible recruits. So they might, on a case-by-case basis, be willing to overlook "minor" crimes, such as defaulting on tax, speeding, parking offences, minor acts of vandalism or public disorder committed whilst a teenager, possibly even single convictions for drug use if they were over ten years ago. Some disordered thoughts: - as driving kills ten to twenty times as many people as murder (in this country, YMMV) I'm not sure speeding is a "minor" offence. - if the drugs & disorder offences are so "minor" why are they offences anyway? Why do the police bother to arrest people for them? Why don't they arresting genuinely dangerous people (like dangerous drivers :-) - About a third of the population of inner London in the relevant age group are black or Asian. Maybe ten percent are 1st or 2nd generation Irish. All heavily under-represented in the police who have a bad reputation for racism. Even if it is undeserved (I'm pretty bloody sure it is largely deserved), if they are so short of recruits they should do something serious about it. - ditto their attitude to women - and anyway, these governments have been forcing the ideology of the Free Market down our throats for 25 years. If it is a Free Market and they are short of workers they should put the wages up. All this palaver is just a way to keep the wages down. Of course the wages are paid out of taxes. So the question for the taxpayers is you say you want more police (they always do, always, same as they say they want more TV cameras) but if you really do are you prepared to pay for it?
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