hard to top this bullshit
(The riders of the infocalypse go clippety-cloppety). http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3215115/Terrorists-use-child-porn-to-... Terrorists 'use child porn' to exchange information Terrorists may be using child pornography websites to exchange data, according to anti-terror experts. By Graham Tibbetts Last Updated: 10:19AM BST 17 Oct 2008 It is thought Islamist extremists are concealing messages in digital images and audio, video or other files. Police are now investigating the link between terrorists and paedophilia in an attempt to unravel the system. It could lead to the training of child welfare experts to identify signs of terrorist involvement as they monitor pornographic websites. The move follows the discovery of sex abuse material during investigations into a number of advanced suspected plots. It is not clear yet whether the terrorists chose child pornography because of a personal interest or merely because it represents a useful medium for disseminating information. Security officials have been puzzled at the use of such offensive material by people claiming to be devoted to the teachings of Islam. "It shows that these people are very confused. Here they are hating Western decadence but actually making use of it and finding that they enjoy this stuff," a source told the Times. British police were first alerted to the link in 2006 when they investigated the possible terror links of a former Mujahideen fighter who preached at a London mosque. They discovered computerised images of child abuse. Five years earlier an investigation of a mosque run by an al-Qaeda recruiter in Milan found child pornography that police believe contained encoded messages. Baroness Neville-Jones, Conservative security spokesman and former chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee, said: "The information about a possible link between extremism and child pornography potentially provides useful insight into three things: the methods that extremists use to communicate; the methods they use to target vulnerable people in society; and the techniques they seek to use to conceal their online activities." Andrew Dismore, Labour MP and chairman of the parliamentary Joint Committee on Human Rights, said: "This is an important development. We have to do more than just the police work. It needs child protection, criminological and psychological work. "It could become a very important weapon in the fight against terrorism."
Terrorists 'use child porn' to exchange information
Wow, this really is the myth that never dies, only the names of the participants change. This first cropped up in the mid-90s when it was being used by unknown foreign agents (today these would automatically be "the Chinese") to smuggle secrets out of US national labs, and every few years it crops up again with a few names changed to keep it topical. I'm surprised it took this long for it to be Al Qaeda's turn. Prediction for the future: At some point it'll be the turn of copyright infringers/file sharers to be the subjects of this myth (if they haven't already, and I missed it). Peter.
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
Terrorists 'use child porn' to exchange information
Wow, this really is the myth that never dies, only the names of the participants change. This first cropped up in the mid-90s when it was being used by unknown foreign agents (today these would automatically be "the Chinese") to smuggle secrets out of US national labs, and every few years it crops up again with a few names changed to keep it topical. I'm surprised it took this long for it to be Al Qaeda's turn.
Prediction for the future: At some point it'll be the turn of copyright infringers/file sharers to be the subjects of this myth (if they haven't already, and I missed it).
I guess this is the obvious question/comment but I'll make it anyway: Why would they do this? It makes not much sense, hiding illegal things in equally illegal things. It's like hiding marijuana inside cocaine ... I mean I could see the point if one medium was slightly less legal (like, say, pirated mp3's) but KP has got to be on par with terrorism ...
Peter.
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I keep thinking someone read this on Cypherpunks where it was meant to be a gag, but took it seriously. On the other hand, there might be one piece of logic here: If the jihadis are willing to die, then hiding their ops messages inside kiddie porn might cause local law enforcement to get all hot and bothered about busting a kiddie porn ring, and not bother calling in other authorities (on time!) for terrorism ties. On the other hand, the jihadis are after all religious, some its conceivable they would not avail themselves of this particularly methodology. (For instance, why don't terrorists ever max out their credit cards?) -TD
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:25:32 +1100 From: michaelslists@gmail.com To: pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz Subject: Re: hard to top this bullshit CC: cypherpunks@al-qaeda.net; eugen@leitl.org
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
Terrorists 'use child porn' to exchange information
Wow, this really is the myth that never dies, only the names of the participants change. This first cropped up in the mid-90s when it was being used by unknown foreign agents (today these would automatically be "the Chinese") to smuggle secrets out of US national labs, and every few years it crops up again with a few names changed to keep it topical. I'm surprised it took this long for it to be Al Qaeda's turn.
Prediction for the future: At some point it'll be the turn of copyright infringers/file sharers to be the subjects of this myth (if they haven't already, and I missed it).
I guess this is the obvious question/comment but I'll make it anyway:
Why would they do this? It makes not much sense, hiding illegal things in equally illegal things.
It's like hiding marijuana inside cocaine ...
I mean I could see the point if one medium was slightly less legal (like, say, pirated mp3's) but KP has got to be on par with terrorism ...
Peter.
-- noon silky http://skillsforvilla.tumblr.com/ http://www.themonkeynet.com/armada/
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Eugen Leitl
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