I'm more than a little concerned about the vicious personal attacks that this list makes on folks that have strongly held beliefs that disagree with some (or all) of the beliefs of hot headed posters to cypherpunks. I thought this was a technical mailing list, that dabbled in politics only as necessary. I see no justification for the personal attacks, especially on 3rd parties that do not read this list. These uncalled for attacks will not convince anyone on the list, and do not become the poster. In Message Tue, 29 Jun 1993 , (someone who should know better) writes:

Dorothy Denning is a fucking idiot. I strongly object to this posting. D.E.Denning is neither an idiot nor a "wicked witch of the East." She just happens to support a view that she strongly believes in. The fact that I think her side is dead wrong does not make her an idiot. Name calling accomplishes nothing but does hurt the signal to noise ratio of this list.

Even more annoying are the attacks on Jim Bidzos. He is trying to make a buck, which was legal last time I looked. And on many issues, he is far more in our camp than against us. He at least likes strong cryptography, and his disputable patents expire in a relatively short time. He has agreed to allow a PGP-compatible program to use RSA without cost, providing the legal version that many U.S. users would like to see. I thought cypherpunks wrote code. I think that personal attacks on folks that are not on the list is a waste of bandwidth. (If you want to attack me here, fine, at least I get to respond firsthand) Pat Pat Farrell Grad Student pfarrell@cs.gmu.edu Department of Computer Science George Mason University, Fairfax, VA Public key availble via finger #include <standard.disclaimer>