At 05:34 PM 4/10/04 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:

On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 09:03:35PM -0700, Major Variola (ret) wrote:

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One can run a P2P app from mains-powered home machine and incur only a minor bandwidth penalty, which you can possibly throttle when you're busy. But my

Most P2P clients don't support this,

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understanding of *mobile* devices (where meshing matters) is that

Morpheus, KaZaa etc. supports this, although you have to use the GUI manually to change this. Perhaps you meant other apps, or you meant automatic QoS of the voice-before-email type. they

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are severely power constrained. To the extent that boozohol power cells and various semiconductor/logic tricks are being used, despite the difficulties they require.

Some nodes are power constrained (mobile phones), some are not (cars, planes).

Yes. I just posted a message clarifying this.

All power management issues are irrelevant for immobile nodes and for energy-glut nodes.

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Meantime, uncompensated altruism is maladaptive.

But that's economics/physics applied to resource usage, nothing new, despite the neologisms and extrapolation.

I stopped using geodesic routing a while ago, because I found out the

Yes proper

term is geographic routing.

Yep, and its obviously important for 1/R^2 "last mile" techs using RF, but otherwise a metric that accounts for how bits actually get around is what matters. A postcard or a phone call to my neighbor still go far away, then back. A globally optimized market (aka RAH's geodesics) might require checking an authoritative (but voluntary) clearinghouse on the other side of the planet. PS look up "caida" they do IP & geography for fixed nodes.