Hey... Over West Street by the former World Trade Center site there are two pedestrian footbridges. Something's been pissing me off a bit: Each of those bridges (which run over West Street--public property) are staffed by non-Cops with gray jackets that say "SECURITY". periodically, if someone goes the wrong way up an escalator or a tourist crosses a line to get a better photo, these rentaCops will whistle or shout them out of wherever they are. Is this legal? Are we really allowing private rentacops to take police functions on public property? -TD
On 2006-01-23T13:37:38-0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
Over West Street by the former World Trade Center site there are two pedestrian footbridges.
Something's been pissing me off a bit: Each of those bridges (which run over West Street--public property) are staffed by non-Cops with gray jackets that say "SECURITY". periodically, if someone goes the wrong way up an escalator or a tourist crosses a line to get a better photo, these rentaCops will whistle or shout them out of wherever they are.
Is this legal? Are we really allowing private rentacops to take police functions on public property?
The city can probably contract private security if it wants. The footbridges may not even be public property, just open to the public. -- The six phases of a project: I. Enthusiasm. IV. Search for the Guilty. II. Disillusionment. V. Punishment of the Innocent. III. Panic. VI. Praise & Honor for the Nonparticipants.
Yes, it occurs to me that they might be considered private property. BUT they are over West Street. Does this make them public? (Or at least the portions that are technically over public property?) Makes me think I need to get ME a SECURITY jacket or, better yet: POLICE. I see all sorts of MwG running rackets of various sorts: I want in...time to get with the program and start collecting taxes!!! -TD
From: coderman <coderman@gmail.com> To: Justin <justin-cypherpunks@soze.net> CC: cypherpunks@jfet.org Subject: Re: RentaCops in Public Spaces? Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:30:49 -0800
On 1/23/06, Justin <justin-cypherpunks@soze.net> wrote:
... The city can probably contract private security if it wants. The footbridges may not even be public property, just open to the public.
remember blackwater at NOLA? now that's creepy...
On 2006-01-23T17:02:29-0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
Yes, it occurs to me that they might be considered private property. BUT they are over West Street. Does this make them public? (Or at least the portions that are technically over public property?)
Makes me think I need to get ME a SECURITY jacket or, better yet: POLICE. I
I'd suggest a fed TLA or FLA, something like FCC or FEMA. A fed can always make up an excuse to be just about anywhere. FBI, DEA, and ATF are too high-profile. SECURITY and POLICE are too generic; people might not take you seriously.
see all sorts of MwG running rackets of various sorts: I want in...time to get with the program and start collecting taxes!!!
That's easy enough. Grab a gun, sweat pants, hooded jacket, ski mask, gloves, and lurk outside some isolated fine dining establishment. If your (loyal) taxpayers complain about taxation without representation, accuse them of being unpatriotic, and offer them a chance to vote on who you mug next. -- The six phases of a project: I. Enthusiasm. IV. Search for the Guilty. II. Disillusionment. V. Punishment of the Innocent. III. Panic. VI. Praise & Honor for the Nonparticipants.
That's easy enough. Grab a gun, sweat pants, hooded jacket, ski mask, gloves, and lurk outside some isolated fine dining establishment. If your (loyal) taxpayers complain about taxation without representation, accuse them of being unpatriotic, and offer them a chance to vote on who you mug next.
Sounds like a plan. Any other Cypherpunks sick of this crypto-anarchy bullshit and wanna get in on the next new government? Don't miss out: early joiners get a higher share of the taxes. -TD
On 2006-01-24T11:25:33-0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
That's easy enough. Grab a gun, sweat pants, hooded jacket, ski mask, gloves, and lurk outside some isolated fine dining establishment. If your (loyal) taxpayers complain about taxation without representation, accuse them of being unpatriotic, and offer them a chance to vote on who you mug next.
Sounds like a plan.
Any other Cypherpunks sick of this crypto-anarchy bullshit and wanna get in on the next new government? Don't miss out: early joiners get a higher share of the taxes.
It seems that a better plan is to go to Iraq and hold hostage citizens of the Axis of Supplication: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2191229,00.html That's $5 million U.S. per abduction. You can't get that kind of ROI in Mexico. Of course, as a kidnapper in Mexico, you don't have the U.S. military hunting you. -- The six phases of a project: I. Enthusiasm. IV. Search for the Guilty. II. Disillusionment. V. Punishment of the Innocent. III. Panic. VI. Praise & Honor for the Nonparticipants.
WOW! So does this mean that France, England and Germany are basically funding the Iraqi insurgency? -TD
From: Justin <justin-cypherpunks@soze.net> To: cypherpunks@jfet.org Subject: Re: RentaCops in Public Spaces? Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 14:37:46 +0000
On 2006-01-24T11:25:33-0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
That's easy enough. Grab a gun, sweat pants, hooded jacket, ski mask, gloves, and lurk outside some isolated fine dining establishment. If your (loyal) taxpayers complain about taxation without representation, accuse them of being unpatriotic, and offer them a chance to vote on who you mug next.
Sounds like a plan.
Any other Cypherpunks sick of this crypto-anarchy bullshit and wanna get in on the next new government? Don't miss out: early joiners get a higher share of the taxes.
It seems that a better plan is to go to Iraq and hold hostage citizens of the Axis of Supplication:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2191229,00.html
That's $5 million U.S. per abduction. You can't get that kind of ROI in Mexico. Of course, as a kidnapper in Mexico, you don't have the U.S. military hunting you.
-- The six phases of a project: I. Enthusiasm. IV. Search for the Guilty. II. Disillusionment. V. Punishment of the Innocent. III. Panic. VI. Praise & Honor for the Nonparticipants.
On 2006-05-23T14:12:47-0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
WOW! So does this mean that France, England and Germany are basically funding the Iraqi insurgency?
It would appear so. Either that, or they're propping up the boating industry... rich ex-insurgents could be cruising around the Med in yachts.
From: Justin <justin-cypherpunks@soze.net> To: cypherpunks@jfet.org Subject: Re: RentaCops in Public Spaces? Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 14:37:46 +0000
It seems that a better plan is to go to Iraq and hold hostage citizens of the Axis of Supplication:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2191229,00.html
That's $5 million U.S. per abduction. You can't get that kind of ROI in Mexico. Of course, as a kidnapper in Mexico, you don't have the U.S. military hunting you.
-- The six phases of a project: I. Enthusiasm. IV. Search for the Guilty. II. Disillusionment. V. Punishment of the Innocent. III. Panic. VI. Praise & Honor for the Nonparticipants.
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