Re: Email tapping by ISPs, forwarder addresses, and crypto proxies
At 02:47 PM 7/6/04 -0700, Hal Finney wrote:
Messages in storage have much lower judicial protection than messages in transit. (This does not have much technical merit, in the current atmosphere of "damn the laws - there are terrorists around the corner", but can be seen as a nice little potential benefit.)
Ie zero.
One thing I haven't understood in all the commentary is whether law enforcment still needs a warrant to access emails stored in this way. Apparently the ISP can read them without any notice or liability, but what about the police?
You are state meat, whether 5150'd or not.
Also, what if you run your own mail spool, so the email is never stored
at the ISP, it just passes through the routers controlled by the ISP (just like it passed through a dozen other routers on the internet). Does this give the ISP (and all the other router owners) the right to read your email? I don't think so, it seems like that would definitely
cross over the line from "mail in storage" to "mail in transit".
If you think the cable landings in Va/Md are coincidental, you are smoking something I've run out of. Its all recorded. I'm sure the archiving and database groups in Ft. Meade will get a chuckle out of your "the right to" idioms.
On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 09:40:29PM -0700, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
smoking something I've run out of. Its all recorded. I'm sure the archiving and database groups in Ft. Meade will get a chuckle out of your "the right to" idioms.
All this stuff goes into some database slot. It will only get reviewed by a human analyst if the ranking function trips over threshold (or reviewed forensically after the fact). I can't imagine any intelligence professional wasting her time reading the crap at times coming over this list. -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]
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