On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 08:16:00AM -0400, Michael wrote:

What I *am* doing is deploying a couple of heavy iron closed relays on OC3 or better bandwidth. The first is now deployed after a lot of up and down testing, and I'll get to the second in due time.

Sounds great. Let us know if you have any questions or run into any problems. Depending on how you're installing, you might like the development version (currently 0.2.1.16-rc). The 0.2.1.x series is going to become the new "stable" soon (it's already probably more stable in practice than 0.2.0.35), and it's way better in a number of other ways. But either 0.2.0.x or 0.2.1.x is fine, really.

On the "Who uses Tor?" section of the website, I see no mention of IT people. I've used the Tor network for many practical uses as an IT Director.

That's a really good point. Especially since a lot of the people who really hate/fear Tor are IT folks who don't understand it.

Quite frankly Tor is an undervalued IT tool and it's capabilities should be trumpeted loudly on the web page. You might also find IT guys like me throwing up some relays in exchange. After all- who has the bandwidth anyway?

Yep. The next step is to come up with some really good clean simple example sentences for our new category. Those examples will dictate the title we give it -- "Security experts use Tor", "Sysadmins use Tor", "Computer experts use Tor", or something else.

So if Tor as an organization had a partnership with a few server rental whores (in multiple countries), it would simplify getting more exits.

If anybody knows good places, please let us know. :) There's a small list being built here: https://wiki.torproject.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/GoodBadISPs Another concern is that if we centralize all the exit relays in a few places, we reduce the anonymity that the Tor network can provide. But I don't think we're anywhere near doing that yet, so it's just something to keep in the back of our minds.

I read back about 6 months in the or-talk list and there were a couple of suggestions inferring that *everyone* should be forced to be an exit node. I think this is a very bad idea,

Me too. Don't worry, we won't do it. But see also https://blog.torproject.org/blog/two-incentive-designs-tor --Roger ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE