RE: Airport insanity
OK, Mr Donald...you're shittin' me, right?
Has anyone who does not look a terrorist done a suicide mission outside Israel or Russia?
If you define a suicide mission a priori as the act of a terrorist (I guess I do), then by definition anyone who performs such an act is a terrorist. Therefore, anyone who performs a suicide mission looks like a terrorist. Guess it's simple, then eh?
Recall the shoe bomber. You just had to look at him.
Yer trollin me, I just know it! YAAGH but I can't help myself...I gotta respond! I guess it's OK then if we don't allow strange looking people on the planes. Come to think of it, I think YOU look like a terrorist...
You would think the airport screeners would need to be half brain dead to let him on the plane. Come to think of it, they are half brain dead, but laws that require them to pretend to be stupider than they actually are do not help.
OK, so you not only want to stop anybody odd looking from getting on an airplane, you want near-welfare, minimum-wage HS dropouts be responsible for determining what "odd" means?
Just don't let anyone who looks like the shoe bomber fly. Problem solved.
Huh? The one flaw in this logic is that this only works if you can send this particular definition of suspicious "looks" backwards in time. The shoe-bomber is a particularly interesting case, as I believe the dude was ethnically British. He might have looked odd from the photo you saw circulated in the press, but I'd bet a lot of money no one would have picked him as looking like a terrorist. However, since we now know about what the shoe-bomber looks like, it should be relatively easy to stop his genetic clones or identical twins from boarding planes in the future. "Problem Solved" indeed. However, this might not work against people that DON'T look like the shoe-bomber.
There are probably a few innocents in Guantenamo, but they released at least one Al Quaeda terrorist who promptly got back in business murdering large numbers of people, and was caught doing it - so presumably they have released lots of others who have committed lots of murders, and not been caught doing it.
Hum. An interesting, Stalinist logic. Well, Stalin was on a certain level immensely practical. I say we build a big electrified fence around Cobble Hill Brooklyn and fuck 'em...SOMEONE in there is definitely Al-Qaeda, therefore let's assume everyone in there's guilty until proven innocent.
Anyone who was non Afghan and in Afghanistan in the middle of the war without a good explanation should have been executed by the Northern Alliance or imprisoned permanently in Guatenamo.
So likewise would you agree that if any non-citizen US soldiers (there are 10s of thousands non-citizen soldiers in the US) are captured in the numerous future wars, then they captors have the right to execute them on the spot? Uhm...no Geneva convention or anything? What the hell, it's a free-for-all anyway!
Yes, I do support internment, as wartime measure, during real war, against an ethnically based enemy.
Wow. Since Iranians are Indo-European (ie, white), then in the event of war with Iran would you advocate rounding up all Americans of Indo-European ancestry? Does this have to be "pure", or should we grab the African Americans too (which have large % of Indo-European genes)? Oh wait, most of the Afghans are Indo-Europeans too. So if you're arrested then you'll certainly understand that we're really just protecting the US from your possible collusion with your relatives in Afghanistan... What seems to be clear to me is that you believe that your opinions originate from some self-consistent logical framework that is "unpopular" in some quarters. What also seems clear to me that it's really an inconsistent hodgepodge thrown up around the real goal, American domination at all costs, damn the logic and damn the consequences. -TD
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Just don't let anyone who looks like the shoe bomber fly. Problem solved.
On 15 Oct 2004 at 16:32, Tyler Durden wrote:
Huh? The one flaw in this logic is that this only works if you can send this particular definition of suspicious "looks" backwards in time. The shoe-bomber is a particularly interesting case, as I believe the dude was ethnically British.
The passengers who jumped him, however, were looking forwards in time. Suicide bombers seldom look, or act, like normal people. You might think a suicide bomber is the ultimate guided missile, but the Palestinian experience is that they are more like unguided missiles, or dumb bombs. The handler accompanies the suicide as close to the target as he dares, then activates the suicide's control, hoping they do not explode on the spot.
He might have looked odd from the photo you saw circulated in the press, but I'd bet a lot of money no one would have picked him as looking like a terrorist.
But the people sitting beside him did pick him as looking like a terrorist. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG z1bJgk/rjP4UAOrP7RtOBaH6cZp3IPBz72kegLH0 4Swd9FlAVwnfuYyk6bFcKfWrQDQDVgIGBVWN+86wq
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