Or store a backup offsite. He complained to me when I interviewed him for my article that he now has something like six computers seized by the Feds so far, going back to 1997. That, he said, sets his investigation into their nefarious misdeeds back six months or so. I'm not in a position to offer him advice, and even if I did want to, it's rather late in the process. It sure seems to me, however, that with all the free hosting services (Geocities, Tripod) around, it would be trivial to FTP them somewhere at little or no cost. -Declan On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 05:21:00PM -0600, Jim Choate wrote:

Geesh, if Bell is so damn bright how come he hasn't figured out how to encrypt this shit...

God, he wants to be busted.

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On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Nomen Nescio wrote:

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Declan wrote:

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I've included links to the original documents in this article: http://www.cluebot.com/article.pl?sid=00/11/11/101218&mode=nested

from the 11/06/2000 Warrant Return Inventory (http://www.politechbot.com/docs/bell0004.jpg):

1 White Paper with address of 701 5th Seattle, 206-346-1806 2 Info Space People Search results: SHERMAN, BRENT 4 pages 3 Internet Map Search results: 392 Alameda Ave, Astoria Oregon 4 Email Message, re: August 18/19 5 Copies US Treasury Check, Copies Edison Intern'l common stock dividend checks 6 Clark County Receipt "330197"; Clark Co. Receipt $16.00; Note w/ license number 616-AQQ 7 Not seized 8 Handwritten document with vehicle license plates 9 Paper documents relating to JEFF/JEFFREY GORDON 10 Six Compact Disc ROM's relating to Oregon Dept of Motor Vehicles Database 11 Three phone disc CD Rom's - Digital Directory Assistance, INC 12 Floppy dis; Power transformer attached to computer 13 Email from Robert East to Jim Bell 14 Printed documents related to Ryan Lund 15 TIGTA fax-dated 7/31/00 16 One envelope to James Bell re: Lund; Doc's re: LUND; color print of map re: 1116 NE 58th, Vancouver 17 Computer floppy Disks - six 3.5 inch 18 One floppy disk, "ATF Thug Hunt" handwritten on label 19 One spiral notebook of handwritten notes related to JEFF GORDON 20 Three pads of paper w/ GPS readings; w/King, Sundown, Jose Martinez, License Plates; w/Riten King Sundown 21 Various documents, computer printouts re: Lund, Fed Spy, DMV records 22 Twelve stapled pages of DMV printouts re: Bend, OR, 23 Five stapled pages of DMV printouts, concerning CIA mapquest maps 24 US District Court filings by RYAN LUND, research on CHAD PETERSON, docs on W. Martin 25 One printed sheet each, re: LISA STEVENSON, JEFFERY GORDON 26 Folder marked "Spy Research" 27 One blue three ring binder containing documents re: SABAN and SUNDOWN 28 Identification and criminal history section "WSP Watch re: Lund, thomas, Oct 27, 1971, 6/23/00 29 Mapquest print for address "8 Towhee Ln, Bend, OR, 2 pages 30 CPU: Gateway, ATX Tower, Serial 0018625569, manf 5/10/00 31 CPU: generic, no serial number 32 CPU: generic, no serial number 33 Various photographs, voter registration records, Ryan Lund Documents, Greg Daly, DMV Info 34 Documents re: Ryan Lund, one notebook 35 Documents re: real propert for Jeffery Gordon, KM Cummings, DMV Info 36 Documents re: Ryan Lund, DMV Records, Email from Mike to Lou Bell addressed to Jim; Name/Address search 37 Notebook on KOCH 38 Mapquest documents, fax machine memory printout 39 One printed metroscan property profile re: SABAN, 10 pages, 5 photocopies of documents re: SABAN