http://www.fresnobee.com/local/story/846113p-905971c.html Two Saudis detained in Fresno Co. The Fresno Bee (Published Monday, September, 17, 2001 4:55AM) Two Saudi men were detained Sunday by federal and local authorities for failing to carry proper immigration documentation, the Fresno County Sheriff's Department reported. The two men, who were not identified, were seen taking photographs of the Shaver Lake reservoir and dam Sunday afternoon by a resident in the mountain community. While driving toward Fresno, the men were stopped for questioning by sheriff's deputies along Highway 168 near Pine Ridge just before 7 p.m.
On Tuesday, September 18, 2001, at 10:59 AM, Declan McCullagh wrote:
http://www.fresnobee.com/local/story/846113p-905971c.html
Two Saudis detained in Fresno Co.
The Fresno Bee (Published Monday, September, 17, 2001 4:55AM)
Two Saudi men were detained Sunday by federal and local authorities for failing to carry proper immigration documentation, the Fresno County Sheriff's Department reported.
The two men, who were not identified, were seen taking photographs of the Shaver Lake reservoir and dam Sunday afternoon by a resident in the mountain community. While driving toward Fresno, the men were stopped for questioning by sheriff's deputies along Highway 168 near Pine Ridge just before 7 p.m.
Ironically, I did a piece for a hacker's list last week discussing
hitting dams. As that list frowns on having articles redistributed to
attention drawn to it, I'll xxxxx out some of it:
From: Tim May
I'm surprised there hasn't been a big effort made to protect nuke plants. Seems like they'd be a ripe target for terrs, either by an airliner hit or just by a large armed group intrusion. -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 hseaver@cybershamanix.com Home 920-233-5820 hseaver@cybershamanix.com http://www.cybershamanix.com/resume.html
At 11:16 AM 9/19/01 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote:
I'm surprised there hasn't been a big effort made to protect nuke plants. Seems like they'd be a ripe target for terrs, either by an airliner hit or just by a large armed group intrusion.
San Onofre increased their ground security. The containment domes are spec'd to handle an airliner crash. Don't know which airliner (707 vs. 747) and how 15 tons of kerosine affect it. Chem plants, refineries & storage facilities [soft targets] all upped their walking guards. No more tours of sewage treatment plants for the public for now (really).
I'd think they'd want troops around them, not just a few more guards, who probably aren't heavily armed or combat trained. There's been some discussion on a energy list I'm on about whether the containment domes are sufficient, with some good arguement that they aren't. Here's an article on the subject: http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=11514 Glad you mentioned chem plants -- that's another worry to add to the list. And to stay upwind of. David Honig wrote:
At 11:16 AM 9/19/01 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote:
I'm surprised there hasn't been a big effort made to protect nuke plants. Seems like they'd be a ripe target for terrs, either by an airliner hit or just by a large armed group intrusion.
San Onofre increased their ground security.
The containment domes are spec'd to handle an airliner crash. Don't know which airliner (707 vs. 747) and how 15 tons of kerosine affect it.
Chem plants, refineries & storage facilities [soft targets] all upped their walking guards.
No more tours of sewage treatment plants for the public for now (really).
-- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 hseaver@cybershamanix.com Home 920-233-5820 hseaver@cybershamanix.com http://www.cybershamanix.com/resume.html
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David Honig
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Declan McCullagh
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Harmon Seaver
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Tim May