Um, he's not *advocating*. He pointed out that such systems were inevitable.
So he is new Galileo then. Shattering the geocentrism endangered only the theological dogma, and he almost got barbecued. The church in question admitted wrongdoing 350 years after Galileo's death (in 1992). The mere intensity of state's handling of Jim Bell suggests that there is something genuine about AP, but what it is still escapes me. On another hand, maybe I would doubt Galileo as well. Cypherpunk Movement Secretary ps. I want to remind everyone not to miss the secret meeting in Washington, DC, on April 13, 8 pm, at Pedro's. (this message is intended only for Cypherpunk members)
Fearless Leader wrote:
The mere intensity of state's handling of Jim Bell suggests that there is something genuine about AP, but what it is still escapes me.
I have to disagree. AP is simply not workable in the real world. It would be trivial to spoof, scam or sting it. The states over reacts for two reasons. (1) Paranoia--no matter how unlikely the threat, the bad guys are compelled by their own guilty fear to take it seriously. (2) To set an example--The Chinese have a saying, "To frighten a dragon, kill a chicken." Bell is no threat. He's a powerless big-talker. He's easy to squash, but servers as an example of how far these government idiots are willing to go. Remember, the government can only apply point force. The only way they can keep everyone in line is to co-opt the majority by assuming the guise of moral/legal superiority, and by intimidation with an occasional demonstration of ruthlessness.
ps. I want to remind everyone not to miss the secret meeting in Washington, DC, on April 13, 8 pm, at Pedro's.
Actually, the REAL secret meeting is in San Francisco on the 13th at 7pm (http://danger-island.com/party/). Fearless Leader will personally preside over the meeting. Party favors will include small containers of ebola virus for use on der tag. S a n d y Cypherpunk Minister of Disinformation
-----Original Message----- From: owner-cypherpunks@lne.com [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@lne.com]On Behalf Of Anonymous Sent: 31 March, 2001 21:39 To: cypherpunks@lne.com Subject: Re: AP is *not* the point
Um, he's not *advocating*. He pointed out that such systems were inevitable.
So he is new Galileo then.
Shattering the geocentrism endangered only the theological dogma, and he almost got barbecued. The church in question admitted wrongdoing 350 years after Galileo's death (in 1992).
The mere intensity of state's handling of Jim Bell suggests that there is something genuine about AP, but what it is still escapes me.
On another hand, maybe I would doubt Galileo as well.
Cypherpunk Movement Secretary
ps. I want to remind everyone not to miss the secret meeting in Washington, DC, on April 13, 8 pm, at Pedro's.
(this message is intended only for Cypherpunk members)
On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 07:38:41AM +0200, Anonymous wrote:
The mere intensity of state's handling of Jim Bell suggests that there is something genuine about AP, but what it is still escapes me.
That would presume a sufficient amount of intelligence on the part of federal agents that -- since I first moved to DC in 1991 -- I have generally seen lacking. As others have pointed out, AP is hardly implementable at the moment, so your explanation doesn't quite work. -Declan
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