"domestic terrorism", fat lazy amerikans & ducks
As expected, animal and environmental activists are now being called terrorists. Foie Gras Flap Leads to Vandalism Sonoma Police Chief John Gurney, who described the attacks as a "sophisticated campaign of domestic terrorism," said: "They're trying to impose their beliefs on others through the use of force, fear and intimidation." Manrique said the vandals had left behind a videotape of his family inside the house that had been shot through a window. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-foiegras25aug25,1,2739877.story?coll... The radical group Earth Liberation Front issued an unsigned e-mail Friday calling the incidents ELF actions,'' and the FBI was investigating the dealership fire as domestic terrorism, Police Chief Frank Wills said. http://www.mtstandard.com/articles/2003/08/23/newsnationworld_top/hjjgjbhgjb...
As expected, animal and environmental activists are now being called terrorists.
Not new; some have been labeled terrorists for a long time, with good reason. But don't confuse activists with terrorists. Handing out leaflets is activism. Planting firebombs in restaurants is terrorism. http://www.activistcash.com has some introductory material on how PETA is connected with ALF, ELF, etc. Patrick
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 11:40:20AM -0600, Patrick wrote:
As expected, animal and environmental activists are now being called terrorists.
Not new; some have been labeled terrorists for a long time, with good reason.
Good reason? EarthFirsters are called terrorists when they treesit or blockade roads. How about releasing furfarm mink, do you consider that terrorism as well? AFAIK, neither ELF or ALF has every harmed a human, so calling them terrorists is just statist agitprop.
But don't confuse activists with terrorists. Handing out leaflets is activism. Planting firebombs in restaurants is terrorism.
http://www.activistcash.com has some introductory material on how PETA is connected with ALF, ELF, etc.
Patrick
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So what are the bets as to how soon they'll start calling democrats terrorists? :) ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :25Kliters anthrax, 38K liters botulinum toxin, 500 tons of /|\ \|/ :sarin, mustard and VX gas, mobile bio-weapons labs, nukular /\|/\ <--*-->:weapons.. Reasons for war on Iraq - GWB 2003-01-28 speech. \/|\/ /|\ :Found to date: 0. Cost of war: $800,000,000,000 USD. \|/ + v + : The look on Sadam's face - priceless! --------_sunder_@_sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------ On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Major Variola (ret.) wrote:
As expected, animal and environmental activists are now being called terrorists.
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Major Variola (ret.) wrote:
As expected, animal and environmental activists are now being called terrorists.
Foie Gras Flap Leads to Vandalism
Sonoma Police Chief John Gurney, who described the attacks as a "sophisticated campaign of domestic terrorism," said: "They're trying to impose their beliefs on others through the use of force, fear and intimidation."
Ask him why he carries a gun. While I don't agree with their methods in all cases it seems to me that they're not telling people what to do, but rather telling others to stop doing it to them. The reality is that the domestic activist movement has only made progress when resorting to violence and destruction. Look at the womens rights movement, 60's civil rights movement, conservation movements in the 60's and 70's. Anything less and the powers that be choose $$$$ over anything else. It's the nature of the beast who goes for these sorts of positions of 'authority'. A perfect example of why greed is -not- good and 'power' should never be placed in one 'authority'. -- -- ravage@ssz.com jchoate@open-forge.com www.ssz.com www.open-forge.com
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Patrick wrote:
leaflets is activism. Planting firebombs in restaurants is terrorism.
Is spiking a tree? Exactly whose tree is it anyway? What happens when the last whale is in the harpoon site, is it ok to ruin the shot? It's not as simple as you make it out to be. The reality is there is a whole host of response ranges that exist between flyers and firebombs. Your binary view is simply an indicator of your brainwashing ;) -- -- ravage@ssz.com jchoate@open-forge.com www.ssz.com www.open-forge.com
On 2003-08-25, Major Variola (ret.) uttered:
As expected, animal and environmental activists are now being called terrorists.
In many cases, that's an exaggeration. In some, it isn't. Animal rights activists don't normally resort to the kinds of violence, say, anti-abortionists do, but they do systematically disrupt certain sectors of peaceful commerce, like the fur industry. That sort of terror is focused enough not to cause the wider public to react, but it does hurt you very, very badly if you've pegged your livelihood to said industry. At least around these parts some people have actually met personal bankruptcy because of the interference. Few sane people would go with the current anti-terrorism legislation, even when it's meant to counter real terror. Personally I'd rather see some anti-gun use legislation rolled back, so that you could teach your friendly ALF representative a lesson if he's dumb enough to meddle with your foxhouse. -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - mailto:decoy@iki.fi, tel:+358-50-5756111 student/math+cs/helsinki university, http://www.iki.fi/~decoy/front openpgp: 050985C2/025E D175 ABE5 027C 9494 EEB0 E090 8BA9 0509 85C2
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