-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- aimee.farr@pobox.com (Aimee Elizabeth Farr) recited:
Of course, you have all watched this battle for many years, so you have a longevity of insight that I don't have. Probably just the same-ole-same-ole to you...
Believe me, you have NO idea. Then, aimee.farr@pobox.com (Aimee Elizabeth Farr) recited:
I can't figure out if you're irked by amateurish elicitation tactics, or if you're trying to give me lessons in how to do better.
I think you can probably figure it out. Ah, I remember the days when I was wet behind the ears on this list. The collision between the law and cypherpunks certainly creates an interesting reaction. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 7.0.1 iQEVAwUBOp17Oy1onm9OaF05AQHKZQgAiyNUYn7M9AW71MFXk6wE3fEOWoWi0Mdk urAZq0EypCrlh94lBc9CPshY3ZDFOTYhzykMT9fa9OnlkwU3L9J4f7gFtI7VAFxF CxxWoc7XAMXlNd0OrXYIebK7OAb0LFVK/f/xs3yfwqkPMTj/N3uWJNB/E2JXTMu+ lcXxFzRUQ13gMuo123jq951iAeIUUzL96kyYWnuGhxsewaK8evWW4Iuy2ikGvZL3 H75UuwWtNAmHci++N3t8YedkuOHUj28cdsxpDT3tPTlhk88hd+peVhTsrt5wOnEF gGz7FeXX6JXfNLWk23ErpRUe5OhI0xnm4uhdlM9dx3E618VbXkd9VA== =DCYR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
The Most Honorable Sir: And the girl was amazed and reached out with both hands to take the lovely toy; but the wide-pathed earth yawned there in the plain of Nysa, and the lord, Host of Many, with his immortal horses sprang out upon her -- the Son of Cronos, He who has many names. Thou O Spirit, That Illumin, I did not invoke Thee, Thou from the first Wast present, who first taught the chosen Seed. The trim-ankled pick flowers in the fields of Eleusis, not the Fruit Of that Forbidden Tree. Do you secretly put in the mouth sweet seeds? Long before Them, she knew of Thee. Happy is he among men upon earth who has seen these mysteries; but she who is uninitiate and who has no part in them, never has lot of like good things once she is dead, down in the darkness and gloom. May you and yours assert Eternal Providence, And justifie the wayes of God to men. Yours in respect and service, Aimee E. Farr, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-cypherpunks@lne.com [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@lne.com]On Behalf Of Anonymous Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 9:31 PM To: cypherpunks@lne.com Subject:
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On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Aimee Farr wrote:
The Most Honorable Sir:
And the girl was amazed and reached out with both hands to take the lovely toy; but the wide-pathed earth yawned there in the plain of Nysa, and the lord, Host of Many, with his immortal horses sprang out upon her -- the Son of Cronos, He who has many names.
Thou O Spirit, That Illumin, I did not invoke Thee, Thou from the first Wast present, who first taught the chosen Seed. The trim-ankled pick flowers in the fields of Eleusis, not the Fruit Of that Forbidden Tree. Do you secretly put in the mouth sweet seeds? Long before Them, she knew of Thee.
Happy is he among men upon earth who has seen these mysteries; but she who is uninitiate and who has no part in them, never has lot of like good things once she is dead, down in the darkness and gloom.
May you and yours assert Eternal Providence, And justifie the wayes of God to men.
Yours in respect and service,
Aimee E. Farr, Esq.
You appear to be completely mad. I think I like you. Sane people get so boring after a while. Bear
Yours in respect and service,
Aimee E. Farr, Esq.
You appear to be completely mad. I think I like you. Sane people get so boring after a while.
I think it might have something to do with the fact that we rarely see females posting on cypherpunks. T
CYPHERPUNKS IQ TEST QUESTION #1. You are walking through the woods alone. A beautiful unclothed woman magically appears in front of you. She holds out an apple. 1. Please darken in the correct choice using a Number Two pencil: (a) you bite the apple. (b) you take the woman. (c) you run away. (d) a and b, but not c. (e) b and c only. (f) all of the above. (g) none of the above. 2. Please justify your answer: ___________________________________________________________________. Just curious.... -Aimee
While trolling for wife-beaters, Aimee Farr (aimee.farr@pobox.com) wrote:
CYPHERPUNKS IQ TEST
QUESTION #1.
You are walking through the woods alone. A beautiful unclothed woman magically appears in front of you. She holds out an apple.
Not enough information. Please clarify the following ambiguities: What kind of an apple is it? Is she a witch? Magic scares me. Is the woman a het, or a mongoose bull-dyke? Whose definition of beautiful are we using here, anyways? Why would I be walking through the woods alone?
1. Please darken in the correct choice using a Number Two pencil:
(a) you bite the apple. (b) you take the woman. (c) you run away. (d) a and b, but not c. (e) b and c only. (f) all of the above. (g) none of the above.
2. Please justify your answer:
Assuming a spherical woman...
On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Aimee Farr wrote:
CYPHERPUNKS IQ TEST
QUESTION #1.
You are walking through the woods alone. A beautiful unclothed woman magically appears in front of you. She holds out an apple.
1. Please darken in the correct choice using a Number Two pencil:
(a) you bite the apple. (b) you take the woman. (c) you run away. (d) a and b, but not c. (e) b and c only. (f) all of the above. (g) none of the above.
None of the above.
2. Please justify your answer:
I'd take the apple and thank her; politeness demands nothing less. As to the rest, these things have to be discussed. Or, if it turns out we have no language in common, at the very least I could offer her a pomegranate (perhaps with the word 'KALLISTI' carved into it) and see how she reacts.
Just curious....
I agree. You are very curious indeed.
-Aimee
How stupid do I look wrote:
Not enough information.
Please clarify the following ambiguities:
What kind of an apple is it?
A magic one, of course.
Is she a witch? Magic scares me.
Why? A female spirit appears to you, that's a "Good Thing", eh?
Is the woman a het, or a mongoose bull-dyke?
Only one way to find out, but probably if she's appearing to you nude, it's obvious.
Whose definition of beautiful are we using here, anyways?
Wouldn't she have the capability of appearing just right for you?
Why would I be walking through the woods alone?
Good grief, why not? Are you afraid of the dark too? I prefer being in the woods alone, or perhaps with my dog. And She Who Speaks often whispers in my ear at such times, which probably won't happen if others are near, unless they happen to be tuned in to the same frequency at the moment.
1. Please darken in the correct choice using a Number Two pencil:
(a) you bite the apple. (b) you take the woman.
Both of the above, or perhaps the reverse -- take the apple and bite the woman.
(c) you run away. (d) a and b, but not c. (e) b and c only. (f) all of the above. (g) none of the above.
2. Please justify your answer:
I'm always looking for encounters with female spirits.
Answer number two: Quoting Aimee Farr (aimee.farr@pobox.com):
CYPHERPUNKS IQ TEST
QUESTION #1.
... would make a great conversation starter for a group of cypherpunks to consider over coctails.
You are walking through the woods alone. A beautiful unclothed woman magically appears in front of you. She holds out an apple.
1. Please darken in the correct choice using a Number Two pencil:
(a) you bite the apple. (b) you take the woman. (c) you run away. (d) a and b, but not c. (e) b and c only. (f) all of the above. (g) none of the above. (h) as above, so below.
2. Please justify your answer:
___________________________________________________________________.
Just curious....
What a coincidence. So am I.
-Aimee
CYPHERPUNKS IQ TEST QUESTION #1.
I'll play, and I won't even hide behind a nym. (Nothing against persistant nyms, but I snicker when people create new ones to make flippant statements they don't want associated with their persistant ones. Cowards....)
You are walking through the woods alone. A beautiful unclothed woman magically appears in front of you. She holds out an apple.
1. Please darken in the correct choice using a Number Two pencil:
(a) you bite the apple. (b) you take the woman. (c) you run away. (d) a and b, but not c. (e) b and c only. (f) all of the above. (g) none of the above.
2. Please justify your answer:
(a) is right out. The apple is obviously bait. Nobody with more brain than a rat bites obvious bait unless it's really tasty looking. I don't like apples that much no matter how beautiful the fruit bowl is. (b) is trickier. Is she bait too? Probably. But see comment about tasty looking above. Risk exists we wind up measuring IQ of little head. Also, is she a witch? Wow, it gets more interesting. Witches can be a LOT of fun and are worth taking risks for. Only trouble is she'll toss yer shoes in the long run unless you can at least respect her gods, and she's probably going to catch you if you fake it. Finally, "take"? That's ambiguous. If we are talking offer and acceptance, with meeting of minds and whatever, that's one thing. If we are talking "Me Og, Og bonk yummy witch and drag back to cave" it's rather another thing. I would say circumstances and literary tradition suggest the former, unless body language and subsequent conversation indicate otherwise. So leave (b) on the list of possible answers. (c) is right out. BZZZT! Wrong answer. How many times in your life do fairy tale things happen to you? Reward is commensurate with risk -- "and he and the beautiful witch lived happily ever after" is a possible outcome. Not to diminish the possibility of "and the ugly toad never left the swamp until the end of his days" but c'mon man, if you've got an ounce of adventure in your soul you'll stick around a bit and scope things out before skedaddling like a wuss. (a) and (b) together are out, because (a) is out. Basic logic. So (d) is out. (e) is out because (c) is out. Also because it's rude. A gentleman should stick around for coffee or better yet breakfast, and should promise to call, and then should DO it -- at least once. (Christ, that sounds like something out of "The Notebooks of Lazarus Long" -- I must be getting old.) (f) and (g) are unsatisfactory for the reasons expressed above. So it looks like (b), by simple process of elimination. Next question? -- Daniel
offer a pear in return. or better yet, recall what happens in the movies when one encounters a 'naked magic woman holding an apple in the dark woods': bizarre death. Run in the other direction as fast as your legs could carry you, all the while letting out the primordal scream you know sounds feminine to the 'non-magical' (better than peeing your pants anyway.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-cypherpunks@Algebra.COM [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@Algebra.COM]On Behalf Of Aimee Farr Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 8:49 PM To: Ray Dillinger; Timothy Brown; dropped_packet@hotmail.com Cc: cypherpunks@lne.com Subject: Cypherpunks IQ Test to the Sirs of Dillinger, Brown & Packet, et. al. CYPHERPUNKS IQ TEST QUESTION #1. You are walking through the woods alone. A beautiful unclothed woman magically appears in front of you. She holds out an apple. 1. Please darken in the correct choice using a Number Two pencil: (a) you bite the apple. (b) you take the woman. (c) you run away. (d) a and b, but not c. (e) b and c only. (f) all of the above. (g) none of the above. 2. Please justify your answer: ___________________________________________________________________. Just curious.... -Aimee
Timothy Brown said:
I think it might have something to do with the fact that we rarely see females posting on cypherpunks.
I think it might have something to do with your Bible-crypto theory. Even this low-grade cipher is certain to befuddle the cryptoanalytic attacks of law enforcement agencies which have long-ignored the value of a liberal arts education. To their great woe, they have cultivated an exploitable weakness. -Aimee
Mr. Zakas: Divorced? Painful financial settlement? A very bad woman in your past, methinks. -Aimee
-----Original Message----- From: Phillip H. Zakas [mailto:pzakas@toucancapital.com] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 10:59 AM To: Aimee Farr; Ray Dillinger; Timothy Brown; dropped_packet@hotmail.com Cc: cypherpunks@lne.com Subject: RE: Cypherpunks IQ Test to the Sirs of Dillinger, Brown & Packet, et. al.
offer a pear in return.
or better yet, recall what happens in the movies when one encounters a 'naked magic woman holding an apple in the dark woods': bizarre death. Run in the other direction as fast as your legs could carry you, all the while letting out the primordal scream you know sounds feminine to the 'non-magical' (better than peeing your pants anyway.)
-----Original Message----- From: owner-cypherpunks@Algebra.COM [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@Algebra.COM]On Behalf Of Aimee Farr Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 8:49 PM To: Ray Dillinger; Timothy Brown; dropped_packet@hotmail.com Cc: cypherpunks@lne.com Subject: Cypherpunks IQ Test to the Sirs of Dillinger, Brown & Packet, et. al.
CYPHERPUNKS IQ TEST
QUESTION #1.
You are walking through the woods alone. A beautiful unclothed woman magically appears in front of you. She holds out an apple.
1. Please darken in the correct choice using a Number Two pencil:
(a) you bite the apple. (b) you take the woman. (c) you run away. (d) a and b, but not c. (e) b and c only. (f) all of the above. (g) none of the above.
2. Please justify your answer:
___________________________________________________________________.
Just curious....
-Aimee
Daniel said: "Next Question?" Do you have a problem with commitment? I do not mean to imply that you aren't faithful. -Aimee
-----Original Message----- From: owner-cypherpunks@lne.com [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@lne.com]On Behalf Of Daniel J. Boone Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 1:44 PM To: cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com Subject: Re: Cypherpunks IQ Test to the Sirs of Dillinger, Brown & Packet, et. al.
CYPHERPUNKS IQ TEST QUESTION #1.
I'll play, and I won't even hide behind a nym. (Nothing against persistant nyms, but I snicker when people create new ones to make flippant statements they don't want associated with their persistant ones. Cowards....)
You are walking through the woods alone. A beautiful unclothed woman magically appears in front of you. She holds out an apple.
1. Please darken in the correct choice using a Number Two pencil:
(a) you bite the apple. (b) you take the woman. (c) you run away. (d) a and b, but not c. (e) b and c only. (f) all of the above. (g) none of the above.
2. Please justify your answer:
(a) is right out. The apple is obviously bait. Nobody with more brain than a rat bites obvious bait unless it's really tasty looking. I don't like apples that much no matter how beautiful the fruit bowl is.
(b) is trickier. Is she bait too? Probably. But see comment about tasty looking above. Risk exists we wind up measuring IQ of little head. Also, is she a witch? Wow, it gets more interesting. Witches can be a LOT of fun and are worth taking risks for. Only trouble is she'll toss yer shoes in the long run unless you can at least respect her gods, and she's probably going to catch you if you fake it. Finally, "take"? That's ambiguous. If we are talking offer and acceptance, with meeting of minds and whatever, that's one thing. If we are talking "Me Og, Og bonk yummy witch and drag back to cave" it's rather another thing. I would say circumstances and literary tradition suggest the former, unless body language and subsequent conversation indicate otherwise. So leave (b) on the list of possible answers.
(c) is right out. BZZZT! Wrong answer. How many times in your life do fairy tale things happen to you? Reward is commensurate with risk -- "and he and the beautiful witch lived happily ever after" is a possible outcome. Not to diminish the possibility of "and the ugly toad never left the swamp until the end of his days" but c'mon man, if you've got an ounce of adventure in your soul you'll stick around a bit and scope things out before skedaddling like a wuss.
(a) and (b) together are out, because (a) is out. Basic logic. So (d) is out.
(e) is out because (c) is out. Also because it's rude. A gentleman should stick around for coffee or better yet breakfast, and should promise to call, and then should DO it -- at least once. (Christ, that sounds like something out of "The Notebooks of Lazarus Long" -- I must be getting old.)
(f) and (g) are unsatisfactory for the reasons expressed above.
So it looks like (b), by simple process of elimination. Next question?
-- Daniel
Harmon Seaver: another "take apple, bite woman guy." Are you bothered by feminine ambiguity? -Aimee
-----Original Message----- From: owner-cypherpunks@lne.com [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@lne.com]On Behalf Of Harmon Seaver Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 9:21 AM To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net Subject: Re: Cypherpunks IQ Test to the Sirs of Dillinger, Brown & Packet, et. al.
How stupid do I look wrote:
Not enough information.
Please clarify the following ambiguities:
What kind of an apple is it?
A magic one, of course.
Is she a witch? Magic scares me.
Why? A female spirit appears to you, that's a "Good Thing", eh?
Is the woman a het, or a mongoose bull-dyke?
Only one way to find out, but probably if she's appearing to you nude, it's obvious.
Whose definition of beautiful are we using here, anyways?
Wouldn't she have the capability of appearing just right for you?
Why would I be walking through the woods alone?
Good grief, why not? Are you afraid of the dark too? I prefer being in the woods alone, or perhaps with my dog. And She Who Speaks often whispers in my ear at such times, which probably won't happen if others are near, unless they happen to be tuned in to the same frequency at the moment.
1. Please darken in the correct choice using a Number Two pencil:
(a) you bite the apple. (b) you take the woman.
Both of the above, or perhaps the reverse -- take the apple and bite the woman.
(c) you run away. (d) a and b, but not c. (e) b and c only. (f) all of the above. (g) none of the above.
2. Please justify your answer:
I'm always looking for encounters with female spirits.
On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Phillip H. Zakas wrote:
offer a pear in return.
or better yet, recall what happens in the movies when one encounters a 'naked magic woman holding an apple in the dark woods': bizarre death. Run in the other direction as fast as your legs could carry you, all the while letting out the primordal scream you know sounds feminine to the 'non-magical' (better than peeing your pants anyway.)
Peeing your pants is fine, so long as you don't whistle while you're doing it. Alex
Quoting Harmon Seaver (hseaver@arrowhead.lib.mn.us):
How stupid do I look wrote:
Not enough information.
Please clarify the following ambiguities:
What kind of an apple is it?
A magic one, of course.
Well, as long as the magic apple is documented, then I see no problem here.
Is she a witch? Magic scares me.
Why? A female spirit appears to you, that's a "Good Thing", eh?
I suppose so, but I'd probably ask her to put on some panties, just the same.
Is the woman a het, or a mongoose bull-dyke?
Only one way to find out, but probably if she's appearing to you nude, it's obvious.
If unclothed and nude are equivalent then it could be obvious.
Whose definition of beautiful are we using here, anyways?
Wouldn't she have the capability of appearing just right for you?
Could be.
Why would I be walking through the woods alone?
Good grief, why not? Are you afraid of the dark too? I prefer being in the woods alone, or perhaps with my dog. And She Who Speaks often whispers in my ear at such times, which probably won't happen if others are near, unless they happen to be tuned in to the same frequency at the moment.
Kenneth? Kenneth? Where for art thou, Kenneth?
1. Please darken in the correct choice using a Number Two pencil:
(a) you bite the apple. (b) you take the woman.
Both of the above, or perhaps the reverse -- take the apple and bite the woman.
That's cheating.
(c) you run away. (d) a and b, but not c. (e) b and c only. (f) all of the above. (g) none of the above.
2. Please justify your answer:
I'm always looking for encounters with female spirits.
This round is on me. -- "I drank what?!?" - Socrates
Daniel said: "Next Question?"
Do you have a problem with commitment? I do not mean to imply that you aren't faithful.
-Aimee
What, you mean the game is over? I thought there was a question #2. Besides, option (b) was "take the woman", not "keep the woman." Any honest man will tell you that revising the wording makes the question more difficult. Until you change the question, my attitudes toward commitment are irrelevant. Irrelevant, irrelevant, that word has a ring. Oh yeah, I remember, that's what she thought our commitment was when she decided to move out. <wry smile> What I should have said: "My dear, that's not irrelevant, it's a rhinocerous!" At least it couldn't have worked any worse, and it might have bought me a smile. -- Daniel ======================================================= The Law Office of Daniel J. Boone 326 Fourth Avenue, Suite B Juneau, Alaska 99801 djb@gci.net ======================================================= "No man's life, liberty, or property is safe when the legislature is in session." -- Judge Gideon Tucker =======================================================
Well, this is obviously the Adam and Eve deal from Genesis reworked to trap the unwary. If you look at the choices closely, there's no good answer. At least there's no answer other than "run away" that won't keep Jehovah from kicking your ass out of Eden. And who knows, if Adam had tried that one, we might still be in the same shape today anyhow. God's got a long sleeve and plenty of tricks up it. MacN
On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Aimee Farr wrote:
CYPHERPUNKS IQ TEST
QUESTION #1.
You are walking through the woods alone. A beautiful unclothed woman magically appears in front of you. She holds out an apple.
1. Please darken in the correct choice using a Number Two pencil:
(a) you bite the apple. (b) you take the woman. (c) you run away. (d) a and b, but not c. (e) b and c only. (f) all of the above. (g) none of the above.
Not in the slightest, note that I said "both the above, *or perhaps* the reverse. I'm a goddess worshiper -- and some of the feminine spirits I commune and commingle with don't even take human form, let alone "beautiful, unclothed". 8-) I do like to nibble tho. Aimee Farr wrote:
Harmon Seaver: another "take apple, bite woman guy." Are you bothered by feminine ambiguity?
-Aimee
-----Original Message----- From: owner-cypherpunks@lne.com [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@lne.com]On Behalf Of Harmon Seaver Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 9:21 AM To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net Subject: Re: Cypherpunks IQ Test to the Sirs of Dillinger, Brown & Packet, et. al.
How stupid do I look wrote:
Not enough information.
Please clarify the following ambiguities:
What kind of an apple is it?
A magic one, of course.
Is she a witch? Magic scares me.
Why? A female spirit appears to you, that's a "Good Thing", eh?
Is the woman a het, or a mongoose bull-dyke?
Only one way to find out, but probably if she's appearing to you nude, it's obvious.
Whose definition of beautiful are we using here, anyways?
Wouldn't she have the capability of appearing just right for you?
Why would I be walking through the woods alone?
Good grief, why not? Are you afraid of the dark too? I prefer being in the woods alone, or perhaps with my dog. And She Who Speaks often whispers in my ear at such times, which probably won't happen if others are near, unless they happen to be tuned in to the same frequency at the moment.
1. Please darken in the correct choice using a Number Two pencil:
(a) you bite the apple. (b) you take the woman.
Both of the above, or perhaps the reverse -- take the apple and bite the woman.
(c) you run away. (d) a and b, but not c. (e) b and c only. (f) all of the above. (g) none of the above.
2. Please justify your answer:
I'm always looking for encounters with female spirits.
participants (12)
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Aimee Farr -
Alex B. Shepardsen -
Anonymous -
Daniel J. Boone -
Harmon Seaver -
How stupid do I look -
How stupid do I look -
Ken Brown -
Mac Norton -
Phillip H. Zakas -
Ray Dillinger -
Timothy Brown