Re: [IP] more on AP Story Justice Dept. Probing Domestic

Spying Leak Dave, Lest we forget what this is about: George W. Bush illegally ordered NSA to spy on US citizens. This is a felony, for which I (and many other former and current NSA employees) hope to see him impeached and jailed. As as former SIGINT analyst, I -and anyone else ever associated with NSA- know that USSID 18 prohibits the spying on United States Persons. This is NSA's Prime Directive, Ten Commandments, and Bill of Rights, all rolled into one. It is an unlawful order to direct NSA to eavesdrop on US citizens. It is impossible for me to stress strongly enough that from day one, every human associated with NSA has USSID 18 drilled into him. With USSID 18, NSA is able to protect and defend our country. Without USSID 18, NSA can be used to oppress the American populace. It comes as no surprise to me that, in the face of an unlawful order, someone went to the papers with the story. The exception to the rule of course, is the FISA courts. President Bush declined to use these courts despite the ability to get a FISA warrant three days after the fact. It is a shame that with such a massive crime freely admitted by President Bush, a smart guy like Hiawatha continues to carry water for this Administration. -Bill PS: A public version of USSID 18 can be read at: http://cryptome.org/nsa-ussid18.htm Also sprach David Farber aka dave@farber.net on 30.12.05 13:50 :
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From: h_bray@globe.com Date: December 30, 2005 12:55:23 PM EST To: dave@farber.net Subject: Re: [IP] AP Story Justice Dept. Probing Domestic Spying Leak
Because (a) the DOJ approved of the spying and (b) the leakers violated federal law by revealing an ongoing intelligence operation in wartime. If the Valerie Plame leak was a crime, this leak is doubly so.
Hiawatha Bray
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From: Mary Shaw <mary.shaw@cs.cmu.edu> Date: December 30, 2005 12:26:18 PM EST To: Dave Farber <dave@farber.net> Subject: AP Story Justice Dept. Probing Domestic Spying Leak
Dave,
Why is the Justice Dept probing the leak rather than the domestic spying program itself? Or did I miss the announcement of the latter?
Excerpted from http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&u=/ap/ 20051230/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/domestic_spying_probe_6
Mary
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Justice Dept. Probing Domestic Spying Leak
By TONI LOCY, Associated Press Writer
The Justice Department has opened an investigation into the leak of classified information about President Bush's secret domestic spying program, Justice officials said Friday.
The officials, who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the probe, said the inquiry will focus on disclosures to The New York Times about warrantless surveillance conducted by the National Security Agency since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
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Revelation of the secret spying program unleashed a firestorm of criticism of the administration. Some critics accused the president of breaking the law by authorizing intercepts of conversations ? without prior court approval or oversight ? of people inside the United States and abroad who had suspected ties to al-Qaida or its affiliates.
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