CDR: Re: A way to discourage advertising

At 6:23 PM -0700 10/18/00, jfanonymous@yahoo.com wrote:
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Here's my idea of how to stop advertisers from using this mailing list as an advertising channel:
If everytime anyone saw junk mail here, they wrote to the address of the sender and/or the address where you send an e-mail if you're interested, and told them how annoyed you were.
Just an idea.
Gee, what an original idea. Better yet, sort all toad.com messages into its own folder and delete its contents regularly. --Tim May -- ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.

Yeah, right. Writing to network administrators sometimes works, or at least puts the spammer into "Whack-a-Mole" mode where they've got to keep switching their sucker-collection endpoints. (Unfortunately, free email accounts make that pretty simple, but you can at least reduce revenue collection from existing spams, and for spammers selling spamware rather than other scams, it's important to discourage new suckers from getting in the game.) A more appropriate response would be to subscribe them to the cypherpunks list (:-) Unfortunately, this is bad - the main impact of responding to spammer's "remove me" or complaint email addresses is that it confirms to the spammer that they had a valid address, so they can reuse it or resell it. So sending the list would make it easier for the spammers to spam you directly. There are more cypherpunkish approaches - the "teergrube" project (go search for the FAQ) or similar trap servers can absorb infinite quantities of spam, v....e....r...y....s...l...o...w...l..y, so you can reply with lots of "thank you" or "remove me" or "yes, send me spam, please, please" mail from teergrubed addresses.
At 6:23 PM -0700 10/18/00, jfanonymous@yahoo.com wrote:
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Here's my idea of how to stop advertisers from using this mailing list as an advertising channel:
If everytime anyone saw junk mail here, they wrote to the address of the sender and/or the address where you send an e-mail if you're interested, and told them how annoyed you were.
Just an idea.
Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart@pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639

At 2:45 PM -0700 on 10/19/00, Bill Stewart wrote:
"teergrube"
Cool. An email version of the spider-trap somebody built at Sandia 4 or 5 years ago. Teergrube means "tarpit", right? Marvellous, just marvellous. Hang out on this list, you learn something, even if everyone knows it before you do. :-). Cheers, RAH Who can't wait to find a teergrube application for 0SX someday... -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah@ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
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Bill Stewart
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R. A. Hettinga
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Tim May