RE: Another John Young Sighting
So...does Mr Young want to describe the FBI non/encounter? (Perhaps he has but I've been out of town and the hotmail account barfed up most recent posts.) What I don't yet fully grasp is why they bother. I suppose there are the following, but I suspect there's one key thing in their minds: 1) Scope out potential sources of arrestability. 2) Intimidate into "straighten up and fly right" 3) Pre-BB or not so-BB-work: Readily available weapons, etc...in case of raid? 4) Just sniffing out the orietation/motivations...ie, raghead or non-raghead? Of the above I consider 3) Unlikely, 2) Not superlikely, 1) Fairly likely and 4) Most probable. -TD
From: "Trei, Peter" <ptrei@rsasecurity.com> To: "Trei, Peter" <ptrei@rsasecurity.com>, "John Young" <jya@pipeline.com>, <cypherpunks@minder.net> Subject: RE: Another John Young Sighting Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:21:28 -0400
After some hiccups, I got a copy to Riad S. Wahby, and he has posted it at http://web.mit.edu/rsw/Public/JohnYoung040820.mpg
Thanks, Riad!
Peter
-----Original Message----- From: owner-cypherpunks@minder.net [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@minder.net]On Behalf Of Trei, Peter Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 10:11 PM To: John Young; cypherpunks@minder.net Subject: RE: Another John Young Sighting
I caught the rerun. I have John's appearence as an mpg; 13 Mb at VCD qual, ~65 at DVD qual. I think <2 minutes of a 30 minute show counts as fair use.
If someone can take that much as a mail attachment, or has an acessible ftp site, I'd be happy to send it. I'd prefer someone who can post it for others.
It's funny, but not deep.
Peter
_________________________________________________________________ Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx
The FBI visit took place in November 2003. Here's an account: http://cryptome.org/fbi-cryptome.htm The John Stewart piece excerpted an AP-TV clip taped on August 16 which was a supplement to an AP story about FBI harassment of potential RNC protestors. AP, like ABC News, confused the unrelated November visit with the August RNC visits. What got their attention were Cryptome's aerials and maps -- red-team exposure of vulnerabilities around Madison Square Garden, and our accusation of NYC security by obscurity. No feds or LEs have inquired about those obvious weaknesses. During interviews we've tried to explain this but that didn't mean shit to the interviewers who were looking for people to brand anarchists who had been smeared by FBI visits. Why are you helping terrorists, they chant. We had no contact with the Daily Show. And didn't use the term anarchist in interviews although several interviewers urged it. We told one interviewer that anarchism was too mild for our intention to undermine civilization, to rid the earth of humanity, for the planet to shrivel into nothingness, to accept that the desire to be god was a useless passion. Oh shit, he said, you're a Sartrean. Merde, oui.
participants (2)
-
John Young
-
Tyler Durden