Re: California Bans a Large-Caliber Gun, and the Battle Is On

Major Variola (ret)

6 Jan 2005 6 Jan '05

8:46 a.m.

Terri Carbaugh, a spokeswoman for the governor, said Mr. Schwarzenegger, a Republican, had made his position clear during his campaign.

"It's a military-type weapon," Ms. Carbaugh said of the .50 BMG, "and he believes the gun presents a clear and present danger to the general

At 09:53 AM 1/4/05 -0500, R.A. Hettinga wrote: public." Ms C has earned herself a few hundred footpounds, or a few meters of rope and tree-rental. The Constitution explicitly protects our right to bear military (not animal-hunting) arms. ------ An RPG a day keeps the occupiers away.

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Tyler Durden

6 Jan 6 Jan

11:07 a.m.

New subject: California Bans a Large-Caliber Gun, and the Battle Is On

Well, I used to be pro gun-control prior to the Patriot Act. Guess the Patriot Act made me something of a Patriot. And come to think of it, "Bowling for Columbine" has the accidental affect of making it clear that Guns themselves are not the problem in the US. -TD

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From: "Major Variola (ret)" To: "cypherpunks@al-qaeda.net" Subject: Re: California Bans a Large-Caliber Gun, and the Battle Is On Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 06:45:22 -0800

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Terri Carbaugh, a spokeswoman for the governor, said Mr. Schwarzenegger, a Republican, had made his position clear during his campaign.

"It's a military-type weapon," Ms. Carbaugh said of the .50 BMG, "and he believes the gun presents a clear and present danger to the general

At 09:53 AM 1/4/05 -0500, R.A. Hettinga wrote: public."

Ms C has earned herself a few hundred footpounds, or a few meters of rope and tree-rental. The Constitution explicitly protects our right to bear

military (not animal-hunting) arms.

------ An RPG a day keeps the occupiers away.

Roy M. Silvernail

11:32 a.m.

New subject: California Bans a Large-Caliber Gun, and the Battle Is On

Tyler Durden wrote:

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And come to think of it, "Bowling for Columbine" has the accidental affect of making it clear that Guns themselves are not the problem in the US.

What leads you to believe that was accidental? -- Roy M. Silvernail is roy@rant-central.com, and you're not "It's just this little chromium switch, here." - TFT SpamAssassin->procmail->/dev/null->bliss http://www.rant-central.com

Riad S. Wahby

9:16 p.m.

New subject: California Bans a Large-Caliber Gun, and the Battle Is On

"Roy M. Silvernail" wrote:

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What leads you to believe that was accidental?

Most likely the fact that Michael Moore is pro-gun control. It shows a certain level of cognitive dissonance to say "guns aren't the problem! Ban guns!" Of course, in Michael Moore's case, that level of dissonance was long ago demonstrated (and surpassed). -- Riad S. Wahby rsw@jfet.org

Justin

8 Jan 8 Jan

10:17 a.m.

New subject: California Bans a Large-Caliber Gun, and the Battle Is On

On 2005-01-06T12:06:40-0500, Tyler Durden wrote:

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Well, I used to be pro gun-control prior to the Patriot Act. Guess the Patriot Act made me something of a Patriot.

What else would the PATRIOT act do? That's a particularly malicious psychological trick on the part of the miserable bastards who named it. It doesn't so much matter that it's obvious. I should like to take this opportunity to remind that it's an acronym, and therefore is properly written in all caps. The taboo against YELLING should carry over to the acronym, making people subconsciously dislike it. -- "War is the father and king of all, and some he shows as gods, others as men; some he makes slaves, others free." -Heraclitus 53

Tyler Durden

11:57 a.m.

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What else would the PATRIOT act do? That's a particularly malicious psychological trick on the part of the miserable bastards who named it. It doesn't so much matter that it's obvious.

Somehow, I don't think the bastards were hoping for the kind of "Patriotism" I have in mind: Large caliber guns to protect our constitutional freedoms, or at least to make it damn costly for individuals to carry out orders trying to take them away. -TD

Justin

8:49 p.m.

New subject: California Bans a Large-Caliber Gun, and the Battle Is On

On 2005-01-08T12:54:25-0500, Tyler Durden wrote:

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What else would the PATRIOT act do? That's a particularly malicious

That was scarcasm.

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psychological trick on the part of the miserable bastards who named it. It doesn't so much matter that it's obvious.

Somehow, I don't think the bastards were hoping for the kind of "Patriotism" I have in mind: Large caliber guns to protect our constitutional freedoms, or at least to make it damn costly for individuals to carry out orders trying to take them away.

It's the socially conservative public at large who have fallen prey to the association between the PATRIOT act and patriotism. I did not intend to suggest that you or most other cypherpunks members have. -- "War is the father and king of all, and some he shows as gods, others as men; some he makes slaves, others free." -Heraclitus 53

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