First of all, anyone have the latest word about Cryptome? Second of all, I took a look at these and what's becomming quite clear is that they don't really say that much. They basically just show how the LGXs are connected and interface into and out of the "secret room" via splitters.* It does say that a buttload of traffic is being split and sent off to NSA equipmet, but the real missing piece is just how that traffic gets back to NSA. I still believe that they just can't send back EVERYTHING, and have to have several layers of prioritzation, so that only fairly interesting traffic makes it back in real time (this is not to say that they don't possibly route and store uninteresting local traffic for future reference) but they can't get everything back to, for instance, DC in real time. Another question I've had for a while is how they get around the loss budgets in certain cases. Dropping a 3dB splitter into an OC-48 signal that's pushed to the limit will result in some signficant BER degredation. Do they just avoid those signals? DO they put in some kind of in-line optical amplifier? (That's not trivial, as they have to electrically power such a device.) -TD *: On the other hand, the existence of splitters alone proves that this is not standard CALEA, so when the case broke this was significant. But technologically it's not all that interesting nor surprising (for 'paranoid' Cypherpunks, at least).
From: Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org> To: cypherpunks@jfet.org Subject: [IP] EFF: Secret Surveillance Evidence Unsealed in AT&T Spying Case Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 20:22:43 +0200
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From: EFF Press <press@eff.org> Date: June 12, 2007 1:29:33 PM EDT To: presslist@eff.org Subject: [E-B] EFF: Secret Surveillance Evidence Unsealed in AT&T Spying Case Reply-To: press@eff.org
Electronic Frontier Foundation Media Release
For Immediate Release: Tuesday, June 12, 2007
Contact:
Cindy Cohn Legal Director Electronic Frontier Foundation cindy@eff.org +1 415 436-9333 x108 (office), +1 415 307-2148 (cell)
Kurt Opsahl Senior Staff Attorney Electronic Frontier Foundation kurt@eff.org +1 415 436-9333 x106
Secret Surveillance Evidence Unsealed in AT&T Spying Case
Whistleblower Declaration and Other Key Documents Released to Public
San Francisco - More documents detailing secret government surveillance of AT&T's Internet traffic have been released to the public as part of the Electronic Frontier Foundation's (EFF's) class-action lawsuit against the telecom giant.
Some of the unsealed information was previously made public in redacted form. But after negotiations with AT&T, EFF filed newly unredacted documents describing a secret, secure room in AT&T's facilities that gave the National Security Agency (NSA) direct access to customers' emails and other Internet communications. These include several internal AT&T documents that have long been available on media websites, EFF's legal arguments to the 9th Circuit, and the full declarations of whistleblower Mark Klein and of J. Scott Marcus, the former Senior Advisor for Internet Technology to the Federal Communications Commission, who bolsters and explains EFF's evidence.
"This is critical evidence supporting our claim that AT&T is cooperating with the NSA in the illegal dragnet surveillance of millions of ordinary Americans," said EFF Legal Director Cindy Cohn. "This surveillance is under debate in Congress and across the nation, as well as in the courts. The public has a right to see these important documents, the declarations from our witnesses, and our legal arguments, and we are very pleased to release them."
EFF filed the class-action suit against AT&T last year, accusing the telecom giant of illegally assisting in the NSA's spying on millions of ordinary Americans. The lower court allowed the case to proceed and the government has now asked the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals to dismiss the case, claiming that the lawsuit could expose state secrets. EFF's newly released brief in response outlines how the case should go forward respecting both liberty and security.
"The District Court rejected the government's attempt to sweep this case under the rug," said EFF Senior Staff Attorney Kurt Opsahl. "This country has a long tradition of open court proceedings, and we're pleased that as we present our case to the Court of Appeals, the millions of affected AT&T customers will be able to see our arguments and evidence and judge for themselves."
Oral arguments in the 9th Circuit appeal are set for the week of August 13.
For the unredacted Klein declaration: http://eff.org/legal/cases/att/SER_klein_decl.pdf
For the internal documents: http://eff.org/legal/cases/att/SER_klein_exhibits.pdf
For the unredacted Marcus declaration: http://eff.org/legal/cases/att/SER_marcus_decl.pdf
For EFF's 9th Circuit brief: http://eff.org/legal/cases/att/9thanswerbrief.pdf
For more on the class-action lawsuit against AT&T: http://www.eff.org/legal/cases/att/
For this release: http://www.eff.org/news/archives/2007_06.php#005304
About EFF
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