Many thanks to Jim G. for posting this. Several things caught my eye, but I'll only comment on one: " XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX The Justice view is that we should carefully press ahead and try to obtain a solution now. Justice contends that the costs of waiting (loss of access and the cost to recoup) are growing rapidly, and an attempt to fix it now is worth the political risks." Considering that this was written in early 1992, I think we (and others) have done quite well to help stall this scheme for the past several years; the black eyes gotten by the fumbled Clipper I and Clipper II schemes have delayed and possibly derailed any hope for controlling both digital telephony and encrytion. (The document mentions going after digital telephony first, then tacking the encryption problem. Whatever one thinks of the needs or issues, this should make it clear that controlling crypto was a plan, not just the "public consumption" story of Clipper as a purely voluntary phone system for government contractors and the like.) The "race to the fork in the road," aka the point of no return, is underway. I think it is actually already too late to control crypto...too many packages already released, too many degrees of freedom in communication, too much "anarchy" in the Net. If we can keep NSA and the other TLA intelligence agencies in a state of confusion and missteps for another two years, I think the war will largely be over. (Not in digital money and banking, for other and more complicated reasons, but in the area of unbreakable communications.) --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."