On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
The correct and accurate chronology is here: http://www.politechbot.com/p-01870.html
The *chronology* was never in question Declan: why the straw?
The message you sent to UUNET complaining about my alleged spam is below.
Yes. The exact same message I just cited.
In your most recent response, you wrote: "*NOWHERE* in the below complaint will you see *ANY* proof of your assertion that I "asked them to take action against *me* [McCullagh]".
To the contrary, in the below spam complaint sent to UUNET
Using YOUR OWN copy of this complaint, go LOOK at it Declan. It was sent to BROADWING.NET. That's B-R-O-A-D-W-I-N-G.N-E-T. It was sent to broadwing and *CC'd* to UUnet. This message is *obviously* aimed at broadwing's subscriber. And again, using *your* copy of the message, show us where I brand *YOU* as the downstream spammer. Or even "The Idjit" himself for that matter! Since I thought the message I was forwarding had only The Idjit's scrawl, there was no *reason* to actually *point out* anyone in particular - you have CHOSEN to paint this the way you WANT to paint this, for whatever reason(s) you have. It must make for good copy, huh?
you brand me a "downstream spammer"
While I have never "branded [you] a downstream spammer", I *am* now branding you a liar and an irresponsible, unethical, and untrustworthy writer with an attitude problem and an ego problem.
and ask them to "please muzzle this idjit..."
And you know what? After all this bullshit from you, I *still* don't think you're in need of "muzzling". Killfiling yes, but nothing more.
I admit I may have been a little hasty in saying you were "censorhappy." "Apparently censorhappy" would have been better. But it is incorrect to say that I tried to attack you in my writeup. My full message is 5,202 characters; the paragraph dealing with you was 338 characters. (Granted, you could snip headers, but the calculation would be similar.)
Playing with numbers now that playing with words has backfired? I am not going to play the game with you anymore: you have shown me, the list, and everyone who ever runs across this thread in a web search what *really* happened. All the smoke, mirrors, and outright *bullshit* can't change that Declan.
It would have been trivial to write an article that *was* aimed at you. I could have said:
If there's one thing J.A. Terranson hates more than spam, it's a spammer. With the regularity of a metronome and the cool calculation of a viper, the vigilante sysadmin regularly reports spammers to their upstream providers. But Terranson's singleminded focus on spam has had one side effect: The gradual but inevitable erosion of any sense of humor about the topic. When I posted a message to cypherpunks...
But I didn't write that.
No, however you *did* clearly imply it. And again, that was NOT THE POINT. The POINT is that you specifically used your "column" as a vehicle for revenge and not for Truth, and you did it consciously, and with malice. The POINT is that when you were called on it you weren't man enough to admit your mistakes, instead, you made a lot of noise and tried a lot of things to distract the world from your folly. The POINT is that you have not just sullied *your own* reputation with this infantile bullshit, the POINT is that you have, by extension, sullied every magazine that elects to give you a public voice. You have failed to serve Truth. THAT is the point.
-Declan
Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org ============================================================================
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0103291257260.10465-110000@greeves.mfn.org> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:58:07 -0600 (CST) From: "J.A. Terranson" <measl@mfn.org> To: abuse@broadwing.net cc: abuse@uu.net Subject: Your downstream spammer...
Please muzzle this idjit...
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org
[signature snipped for brevity, full message available on request]
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Cypherpunks are well-known providers of Bulk-email HTML spam campaigns. As a "marketing analyst," you've clearly come to the right place.
-Declan
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------