-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <199612071749.JAA08668@comsec.com>, on 12/07/96 at 09:49 AM, Eric Blossom <eb@comsec.com> said: ::> Indeed, in the 1970s I was using H-P 9825s and DEC PDP 11/34s, but ::> the teenagers of that decade were, if they were fortunate and ::> energetic, using PETs, Apple IIs, and the like. ::Right On! PDP 11's rule!!! ::My favorite one was an 11/34 with "Hardware Floating Point" that had a ::GT-43 vector display processor as a coprocessor. :: that's what I thought until my 11/44 rolled in! ::You'd build a double ::buffered display list of vector instructions for the coprocessor, ::using your handy dandy fortran program, and then let it rip. As long ::as you weren't trying to do hidden line removal, or draw more than ::about 200 vectors, you could get smooth, real-time wire frame ::animation. We had it hooked up to a couple of knob boxes and some ::nice three axis joy sticks connected to 10 bit A/D's. :: you're showing your age, too! remember the old, old Logo before the IBM PC --ran on an 11/34? and the sandbox for the turtle. I still had an 11/34 when my youngest son was 2-3; and he would spend hours driving the turtle with its headlight in the sand, trailing its umbilical cord until he would hopelessly entangle it --and the old DEC Gigi keyboard which was only produced for educational sales --I managed to acquire a salesman's demo. I still have the Gigi, the special color monitor, and the source code tape from U of Toronto via DEC --compiled it on V6 UNIX if I remember, then Berkeley 3.9 for the 11/44 I had just acquired which was obsoleted by a pair of Vaxen in about a year. am I showing my age, yet? BTW, I think I can still read 9 track tapes. The old Pertec 800/1600 is still racked with a minivax with Ultrix V7. anyone still wish to play with that old dinosaur? - -- Cyberspace is OUR Freedom. FUCK your CDA! and, FUCK your WIPO, too. -attila -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: Encrypted with 2.6.3i. Requires 2.6 or later. iQCVAwUBMqo3wr04kQrCC2kFAQF7nwP+LM3FpVutojYbQCFPrRpOJZqtLC7r5+pw 68yo0gV0xmaMwVvkNSE48x4Y9ApkuLurE6wjDP1OyqY2IpF4vqORejpass223qtU Iz7mlds+uMP11nnct34OF+Q4vkE+ey5xHhd6Xz1ejRQ0wUaA23NWEabQPMr2iLEd 1aL5uPkp0c0= =F0ZH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----