RE: actual cell phone buying experiences in Europe... In Greece you can purchase a GSM cell phone with smart card reader for cash (sometimes free if you purchase a smart card along with the phone)...no address, phone number, etc. required to receive the phone. Smart cards with pre-set values (usually $5, $10 and $25 worth in Greek drachmas) are purchased in cash via the thousands of corner kiosks or at electronics stores, etc. Again, no name, phone number, address, etc. required to purchase smart cards. The Greek GSM cell phones are useable across all of Europe, including the UK and Eastern Europe, Russia, etc. Plus the phones can be modified to interact with Voicestream's US GSM-type service (I've been told, not experienced first hand). Phillip Zakas -----Original Message----- From: owner-cypherpunks@Algebra.COM [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@Algebra.COM]On Behalf Of montag montag Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 1:07 PM To: cypherpunks@toad.com Subject: cell phone anonymity Please post the actual experiences about obtaining a pre-paid cell phone (aka "mobile" in the less developed world) without revealing any (correct) identifying info, such as address, telephone no, name, etc. I know that it can be done in Canada. Unsure about US, UK and the rest of europe. regards, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/