-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 10 Dec 95 at 12:30, Anonymous wrote: : On 9 Dec 95 at 21:43, Jeff Hupp wrote: : : > On 9 Dec 95 at 18:29, Siberia wrote: : : > : Okay, here's how I understand things with PGP and Pegasus. : > : You have two options with Pegasus depending on the set-up : > : options you choose. You can either send upon completion of : > : your out-going email, or you can have your mail queued : > : until you press the send out-going mail button. The actual : > : PGP process does not occur until you actually send the : > : mail. So the answer would be: don't queue your mail. : : > That's not really a solution in the Windows environment, if : > you have a swap file, you never know what gets written out : > to it. The solution is run w/o a swap file or run an : > encrypted file system. I run an encrypted file system. : : Oh, PLEASE! Do you HAVE to go and mix up two completely : different issues? Aren't the nontechnical people trying to : follow these things likely to be confused enough without your : adding to that confusion? For every person who really : understands the technical issues there are probably a thousand : or ten thousand who are just trying to *use* the stuff without : stepping into a deep hole. : : An OS swap file is one kind of hole. What Siberia is writing : about is ANOTHER type of hole. If I wipe my swap file after : each use of my machine and don't know that Pegasus is doing : this, or think that because of what you wrote I'm no worse off, : I've been done a serious disservice.] So, I shouldn't take the opportunity to tell those non-technical people about the other "hole" they most likely have? After all this only effects Windows users and it is a problem with windows. Read what I wrote, I did not say the original post was in error about not queuing mail and saw no reason to repeat what appears to be a fact. And, if the non technical people don't know about the swap file problem, and just assume that if they don't queue mail they are no worse off then they have been don a serious disservice. BTY, did you check it out? Or just take what you saw as an opportunity to rant? : : > Pegasus will indeed save your key with your message in the : > outgoing queue. This is a problem with the design of : > pegasus, not with the design of the add on encryptor. : : How about saying something USEFUL, like yes or no to the : question of whether sending WITHOUT queueing will make any : difference? How about agreeing that if David Harris hopes to : provide a useful interface to external "encryptors" he will : have to do something about this? How about cc'ing David? : : Somebody else could as well point out that we're all full of : crap because we don't use Amigas, and while he might have a : point, it wouldn't be a very useful one. : Yes, it would have been a WONDERFUL opportunity to drop a O/S v. O/S troll on the list, notice I didn't. What I did do, was write up a problem description and mail it to David Harris. This based on the likelyhood that he doesn't read cypherpunks. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMMrgqTUjeCeeebC9AQG3gwf/VdD9J/KJ1Tau3/L8BLoZ1v6ACAc93zcP 4F1MDoeX7EMSjWqGFZvsh0ev9hgciXvId9lu7tfMqIXQdolHzjXiyPXaw3qEa1Id A80j+Z7OKB9RSz9LKHQqjrrqpANDbJ16LIztYW5r9YjMSntWX9OF7MzeZ0BJRYc4 d1oWnhHqnF6K9rX2XWDveXyQJgCnu2sZw6nNXi0V61OdhBc/QmPsjBp+u7aig+i8 vdC7EJh2znKsNqlQqiJmHnfTbGuoVZGQkc/71hpD2reLzcU7W/NQwM7rL4PFGyDg QA15LXcfKsp6p0JCdZc+bvUfpH5mQQFWm4kd6sY7knjO3fKuTc7jpg== =Li0A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- JHupp@gensys.com |For PGP Public Key: http://gensys.com |finger jhupp@gensys.com A generation which ignores history has no past - and no future.