One of the reasons I've been so skeptical that legislative fixes will work to protect our access to free and unfettered strong, unbreakable cryptography is because I knew strong crypto *really would* do the things McCain, Kerrey, Hollings, Freeh, Clinton, Reno, and all of those folks are fretting about. I mean, come on! This is what crypto anarchy is all about! With it will of course come unbreakable communications channels for bank robbers, terrorists, child pornographers, money launderers, and all the rest of the bogeymen. How could it be otherwise? Ditto for untraceable digital cash. Chaum may waffle on this issue, and even say completely unfounded things about how maybe there will be ways to separate "good" untraceable transaction capabilities from "bad" ones, but we all know this is just shuck and jive. Ditto for anonymous remailers. Ditto for data havens. Ditto for DC-Nets. Ditto for all the good stuff. We know it. Some of them know it. And claiming that this stuff won't happen is disingenuous. (Off point a bit. I was just looking at some of the analyses of the S.909 McCain-Kerrey language, the one that passed today, and was struck by how _dangerous_ some of the analyses are. They critique M-K on some grounds of flawed linkages between CAs and keys, and so on. Well, would the underlying problems with M-K be fixed if these linkages were fixed? Not to me. The only way to defeat M-K is to throw it out completely, not quibble on fine points.) Anyway, they're figuring out what we've known for several years, even longer. And they're lashing out. Pro-CODE never had a real chance. No legislature is going to pass a law making crypto anarchy, black markets, and unfettered pornography a reality. We have to discard concern for "politics" and refocus our efforts on our original strength: monkeywrenching the system with technology. --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."