-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Ya gotta get yourself connected, as the Stereo MC's said. Unfortunately I can't see anyway to gain trust in this pseudonym since I don't believe that the ostensible owner, name of "Black Unicorn", understands about how to establish a strong pseudonym in the Web O Trust. I mean, I could explain it to him, but not even counting the difficulties of communicating such complex concepts among humans, there is the fact that if Mitch is here, he can prevent the real Uni from seeing the explanation, and he can act in Black Uni's place as if he understands. Then he can go through the necessary steps to increase our trust in his pubkey, as if Uni were going through them. There would be only one problem for Mitch: there would be some knowledge shared by the facade Uni and the rest of us that was not shared by the real Uni and the rest of us. Forever into the future whenever this knowledge came up in conversation Mitch would have to break automated-active-attack mode and go into acting mode to prevent us from realizing that we remembered history differently. Wouldn't be cool if we could somehow make much of our conversation depend on that shared memory in some non-automatible way? Then we could just recurse, making more and more of the conversation depend on previous conversation in a non-automatible way. Eventually all of our conversation would have to be acted by a human MITM instead of just falsely digitally authenticated by an automated MITM... more later, Bryce P.S. - -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.2i hQEMAy1onm9OaF05AQf8D+nK6n4pobVlbL04r/un3dwxbOlCW/C5Iu8a//Wiu49B +ExkmlqK04cJbyF17N5F+j628RncYTyohUXvYPC0UtQPWWV3bj2euxFyzr8d40Cn W0mKGI4/6W29RYXwEn/3g+g+2sJt/HCIG1/RnhbcOCubJIQRYIY/7srmuiahLVob a1bKxd5Zp1JRHHmEPvFrpzz/TuiUKf4JGczcrhMYlt3q1fFsB4cW2inA9ymHdHZS OPiO+9au67fsv0YlF8qGoqEgeKuyX/pZUs1knntH7IFkjCziD0EeaTg+wvs5veJY fpJdTcCES0tuqFD+4WM1CV0Ad8mPLOGDsxF2vBMOuaYAAADVYpDriBhb5KIQJsTG M9957b/XTA7T2mq+sPsYd8ivoVgQqgiVYcJzpd0K5oqJTlsNpKzN23R2cfS4EGqV Xg3KNZqMSpA+u7Lx5OgZaeG0qaSpAtPxX7z6IZQL71YGjaoqNBaZHpuPdRIiic2g jfaX3DBBndue1801fQsahyqUqw2H/AeEVC7aJVlN9L/h7f85EIeIrLFPkl09uM9s XqalftyF90SAvynSVv+zVoAhvSETtTwecryM9sbpqQiDnYYw3zDsCK/cTOAcjtYo c68y2eyNPG8p =5LFk - -----END PGP MESSAGE----- EALLENSMITH could have been included in the encryption but I couldn't find a PGP key for him. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: Auto-signed under Unix with 'BAP' Easy-PGP v1.1b2 iQB1AwUBMYOVIEjbHy8sKZitAQGl0wMAoLEe5xqPMs9J2vclqbmN2QNCyXk4l3qH g4TUVepq1gMlXXJ4w2Xae/XxsX7Ytu5aeNlkcUsLUgjtkAm63WAaJszgQGtLwqTI poZ4wfv7DMZC0n9lXsfacrBtIaJCKLTj =2e1i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Replied: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 17:43:29 +0200 Replied: Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li> Replied: "E. ALLEN SMITH" <EALLENSMITH@ocelot.Rutgers.EDU> Replied: cypherpunks@toad.com Return-Path: unicorn@schloss.li Received: from polaris.mindport.net (polaris.mindport.net [205.219.167.2]) by digicash.com (8.6.11/8.6.10) with ESMTP id JAA11303 for <bryce@digicash.com>; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 09:02:23 +0200 Received: from localhost (unicorn@localhost) by polaris.mindport.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA03059; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 03:01:57 -0400 Posted-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 03:01:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 03:01:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li> X-Sender: unicorn@polaris.mindport.net To: "E. ALLEN SMITH" <EALLENSMITH@ocelot.Rutgers.EDU> cc: bryce@digicash.com, cypherpunks@toad.com Subject: Re: arbiter/escrow agent for hire In-Reply-To: <01I3X9N6RA1W8Y50LP@mbcl.rutgers.edu> Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.93.960425030044.3252P-100000@polaris.mindport.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 24 Apr 1996, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote:
From: IN%"bryce@digicash.com" 24-APR-1996 10:05:20.14
1. Acceptable digital signature upon the "bet statement" from each bettor. (Note that PGP signatures from PGP key pairs which are not connected to me via the Web of Trust, or which are not verifiable by me via an out-of-band connection, are not acceptable digital signatures. This is because of the MITM attack problem, not because I need True Names to be connected to the signatures.)
IIRC, currently Black Unicorn doesn't have any signatures on his public key of others. Therefore, this requirement, while understandable, could cause a bit of a difficulty in the current situation.
Please obtain a copy of my current key by finger. --- My preferred and soon to be permanent e-mail address:unicorn@schloss.li "In fact, had Bancroft not existed, potestas scientiae in usu est Franklin might have had to invent him." in nihilum nil posse reverti 00B9289C28DC0E55 E16D5378B81E1C96 - Finger for Current Key Information Opp. Counsel: For all your expert testimony needs: jimbell@pacifier.com