William H Geiger writes:
In <ocrwwgw2bd3.fsf@ml.com>, on 12/23/97 at 12:55 PM, Colin Rafferty <craffert@ml.com> said:
William H Geiger writes:
In <ocryb1c2i2u.fsf@ml.com>, on 12/23/97 at 10:30 AM, Colin Rafferty <craffert@ml.com> said:
Paul Bradley writes:
>Suppose RealBig Corporation fired Umbehr for his views. Would a First >Amendment issue have arisen? Of course not. In a free society, RealBig >is free to hire whom it wishes, and to refuse to hire niggers, homos, >perverts, Jews, whatever. And to fire anyone who wrote opinions the >managers at RealBig disliked.
Substitute "fascist society" for "free society" in the paragraph above and the discussion begins to make some sense. Hell, it's even historically accurate.
Wrong, do you dispute the fact that RealBig corp. is free to refuse to hire people for any reason whatsoever? Do you think I should not be allowed to refuse to hire people because of their race or sexual orientation?
Should the government be able to take action against me because I fire someone for being jewish/black/homosexual???
Welcome to the 20th Century, moron.
Really amazing how many so-called "freedom fighters" become STATIST if the proper buttons are pushed.
What are you talking about?
Freedom of expression is not the same as freedom of oppression.
If you want to live in a hut in Montana and shelter yourself from the real world, feel free. Otherwise, it may be a good idea to check out social theories from the last hundred years.
Please explain to me where in the Constitution the government is given the power to determin who I *must* associate with??
Given that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was upheld as Constitutional, I would generally use that as an argument.
If I decide that I do not wish to do business with anyone who's last name begins with the letter "R" what gives you the right to say that I must?!?
No one. In fact, sometimes I wish that you would :-). On the other hand, if a law were passed that made it illegal, and the Supreme Court found it constitutional, then it would be. -- Colin