-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tim May (2003-05-21 05:44Z) wrote:
On Tuesday, May 20, 2003, at 09:34 PM, Justin wrote:
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Jim Choate (2003-05-20 23:52Z) wrote:
I suppose neither Mr. Rupp nor the Inquirer could be bothered to read the bill or the section of Oregon law referenced by it. Or perhaps reading a legislative summary was just too complicated or time-intensive for their busy schedules, and they decided to skip that formality in their quest to distribute their quota of truth to the public.
The provisions in Section 3 of the bill, currently in Section 19, Ch. 666 of Oregon Laws, are not related to the first part of the bill which seems to define terrorism.
I downloaded the PDF version of the bill, read it, and was both amused and aghast.
Amused, because it is precisely the act we have sought to help make things immeasurably worse and thus bring on the destruction of America the Damned.
Aghast because of the boldness of the suspension of the Constitution in Oregon.
What suspension of the Constitution are you talking about? The only terrorism-related provision in the bill criminalizes willful [planning of] disruption of free assembly, commerce, transportation, education, and government. There's the usual requirement of 2 witnesses or open court confession. I agree that the expansion of terrorism laws to cover activity not linked to the federal notion of "terrorism" is dangerous - those acts are already illegal - but I don't see how the bill ignores the Constitution. It simply adds a duplicate law with a harsher punishment. The list of 131 crimes identifies those crimes to which Oregon forfeiture laws apply. Those 131 (now 132) crimes have nothing to do with terrorism. - -- Freedom's untidy, and free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things. They're also free to live their lives and do wonderful things. --Rumsfeld, 2003-04-11 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAj7LsaAACgkQnH0ZJUVoUkOvOgCfaiWOkw2Oox/Hvz2efyDLFyH3 FS4AoIciedCEGmQOHOeLChdZopYono0s =HA1U -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----