Re: Not sure if this is related but...

I've been working on creating alliances between liberty and open source activists for about a year and have found that there is a MASSIVE philosophical overlap between people interested in technical and political freedom. In fact, I think one of the best opportunities the open source movement has to get in front of the American people is through the voices of 'tea party' political candidates. No joke. I was at CPAC last month telling every liberty activist I could get my hands on one simple thing: "The people will stop supporting government when they know they can thrive without it." Then I tell them about how easy it would be to create Drupal, Joomla and Wordpress deployments and component libraries for common tasks such as running schools, local governments, hospitals, fire departments, etc. We could have open source technology solutions originating from local groups instead of the federal government. They love it. There is an initiative brewing out of Young Americans for Liberty (formerly Students for Ron Paul) called Year of Youth http://yearofyouth.org. Their mission is to get 100+ youth candidates trained and running for local, state and federal offices by 2012. I may have the opportunity to develop their technology candidate training module. Another group we should all be familiar with is the Free State Project in New Hampshire where a multi-year effort to take over the state government and make New Hampshire the freest state in the Union is underway and beginning to pay divided. I've met many of the free staters. They're awesome and philosophically aligned with us. If we can help the liberty movement explain to the American people how they can overcome the challenges of self-governance using open source technologies, we can get our message of autonomy and resilience into the homes of nearly every American. If anyone on this list would like to help me with this endeavor, please let me know and we can connect. I've begun a presentation about this issue: https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=ddrgsgrv_1766g9jm7tz I've been listing resources here: http://www.sarapisfoundation.org/wiki/index.php?title=FLOAmerica Live Free :) On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Michael Grube wrote:

Tatiana,

You are absolutely right. Everyone who is seriously involved in projects like the must consider all possible reactions to the technologies being developed - even the extremely unpleasant ones. The truth is that if we achieve any amount of success we will have most of "the powers that be" completely against us. Not to sound alarmist, but the cold truth is that if your technology directly threatens a giant, there may be worse consequences than being thrown in jail.

This is a very important point that all contributors must keep in mind when publishing their work. No conspiracy theories are necessary to realize that a successful implementation will mean possible violence and radical changes.

Michael

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Tatiana Maya wrote:

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Hi All,

I am a lurker in this group. My name is Tatiana, I am from Colombia and live in Brisbane - Australia since 2007. My interest about the contact event is in business and economics. Passionate about complementary currencies (CC's).

There is a skype group about CC's where someone shared this http://www.zerohedge.com/article/fbi-busts-mastermind-criminal-issuing-silve...

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/fbi-busts-mastermind-criminal-issuing-silve...The main point of the article is: Someone will be in prison for 15 years due to his silver coin (Liberty Dollar) issuing.

From that skype conversation I also got this:

The Liberty Dollar case is far from "resolved," rather the conviction of

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von Nothaus demonstrates just how far through the looking glass we have gone. According to the US government, you may all be "terrorists." Here is a quote from the FBI press release: "Attempts to undermine the legitimate currency of this country are simply a unique form of domestic terrorism,b U.S. Attorney Tompkins said in announcing the verdict. b While these forms of anti-government activities do not involve violence, they are every bit as insidious and represent a clear and present danger to the economic stability of this country,b she added. b We are determined to meet these threats through infiltration, disruption, and dismantling of organizations which seek to challenge the legitimacy of our democratic form of government.b http://charlotte.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel11/ce031811.htm

So, this is not to implant fear or anything, but a pretty similar situation may be on the horizon for initiatives like the decentralized internet. I don't know what the laws are about it in the US, but it might be worth having a look to try to anticipate possible scenarios??

Is there anyone familiar with Admiralty law vs Commons Law?? There is a movie called Kymatica available on the internet that talks about it. It may appear the kind of conspiracy theory thing, but I found a group here in Australia that is actually disrupting the legal and banking system a bit using what they have discovered from the research on the matter. Just thoughts if anyone thinks these are interrelated topic.

Cheers

Tatiana

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Steve Jakson wrote:

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Hi Douglas,

I am fine with developing a solution to a problem. But can you suggest me 2-3 topics so that I can choose one. It must be a semester project.

On Mar 20, 6:51 am, Douglas Rushkoff wrote:

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Hi Steve, I would think part of the Masters thesis is to come up with the idea. Given all the conversation that has been going on here, given the Wiki filled with what exists and what doesn't, I would think you should be able to pick from among the dozens of areas that need a fix and develop a solution, no?

On Mar 20, 2011, at 12:58 AM, Steve Jakson wrote:

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Hello All, I am a Graduate Student in Computer Science and I am supposed to do a Masterbs Project in Computer Networks. Can someone suggest me some idea so that I can develop and implement that idea and complete my project. At the same time I want to be part of your open source projects. So can you guys suggest me a project where it is mutually helpful to both of us. Waiting for your reply.

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