mail fwder seemed to have messed up my msg line here is a repost: Jim: the govt is the way it is because the sheeple of this country have let it get out of control for many decades. the idea that "someone else handles that stuff" has infected our consciousness. govt is something WE handle if we want a good one. if you want something done right, do it yourself. cpunks actually contribute to this problem with their nihilistic philosophy in general. the msg is that it is a waste of time to engage in group activity or political discourse or lobbying against the govt or organization or *whatever*... it's actually just a variant on the sheeple passivity. sheeple are like, "that's not my job". cpunks are like, "it is a waste of time and energy to do that job". what's the difference in the end?? the govt can be turned around very, very quickly if the public stops sucking down sixpacks and being hypnotized by meaningless dribble of sporting events and sitcoms that parade endlessly across their nanosecond attention span. maybe they might read even more than a comic book or pornographic magazine some day. the political class *intentionally* created this bread and circus atmosphere and are hiding behind the scenes as we speak. no dorothy do not look at the man behind the curtain. some new books are encouraging signs. "secrecy" by moynihan. there is a new book on the "third party" or something like that which proposes a new political party, and is selling very well on amazon. a new book by gerry spence lawyer talks about how the u.s. population is enslaved. the material is there for those who seek it. "when the student is ready the teacher will appear"