
mpd@netcom.com (Mike Duvos) writes:
At this point, I would love the ability to filter news and mail according to some criteria related to the sender's probable reputation. Back in the early days of C&S, spam was an intellectual issue. Now it is a good chunk of the entire bandwidth of major components of the Net.
No it's not. Look at the size of the spam reported on a week in news.admin.net-abuse.announce. Divide it by the total Usenet traffic in a week. Tell us what you get.
I am now getting more junk email than email from people I care to correspond with. It seems one can't even read the scholarly newsgroups anymore without "Come Watch Us Lick Ourselves on the Web" messages popping up regularly.
Have you looked at NoCeM notices? If the "Lick my Pussy Cheap" article is multi-posted more than 15 times, then the CancelMoose[tm] will post a NoCeM notice for it in alt.nocem.misc. (A big 8 newsgroup may be created eventually.) If you use decent newsreading software, you can instruct it to look at the NoCeM notices and mark the inappropriate articles as being already read, so you won't see them. Look at CM's homepage at http://www.cm.org for more information about NoCeM's. Some people, including myself, issue NoCeM notices for articles in certain newsgroup which aren't multi-posted, but are nevertheless off-topic. Here are the PGP signatures for the 'bots I run: Type bits/keyID Date User ID pub 1024/7BECC7F1 1996/08/08 <alt.revenge-NoCeMbot@bwalk.dm.com> pub 1024/F1CB011D 1996/03/16 <misc.jobs.misc-NoCeMbot@bwalk.dm.com> pub 1024/5BEC22E5 1996/08/08 <nyc.food-NoCeMbot@bwalk.dm.com> pub 1024/FDF03179 1996/08/09 <nyc.general-NoCeMbot@bwalk.dm.com> pub 1024/6396A13D 1996/08/08 <nyc.seminars-NoCeMbot@bwalk.dm.com> pub 1024/B1E05325 1996/08/08 <rec.humor-NoCeMbot@bwalk.dm.com> pub 1024/946493D5 1996/08/08 <sci.math-NoCeMbot@bwalk.dm.com> pub 1024/FEBCB511 1996/08/08 <sci.physics-NoCeMbot@bwalk.dm.com> Public key for <alt.revenge-NoCeMbot@bwalk.dm.com>: -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQCNAzIJ2+4AAAEEAL0WxIcWypgl7EFfVmJSfSCGmWTuzEaMHvbPxdyN1lm4Dum3 M9DVk8fqaPWLqEjqXOJ700Op3Dl/jXoYbv38tXpwaZ/Z769gXFHnEJOkX1m1PqCo 0Sq5naPauhIt6cpaminvfourqwbWjDmDWn7/1T5K4V4yehEnj1UsIER77MfxAAUR tCM8YWx0LnJldmVuZ2UtTm9DZU1ib3RAYndhbGsuZG0uY29tPg== =B5BZ -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Public key for <misc.jobs.misc-NoCeMbot@bwalk.dm.com>: -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQCNAzFLAe4AAAEEAOLyLxMchegiEnjrf39JnpoO3UiEf7PelgOgbDAWafnj2cQV HfhBWJZDsCekCBi64Wu6YsoF/hY6QkA5QwQ7O7ZXB89chBIdOeJIlFFo9qq4LWRX vlQzcSDvt93f2S+HHCjQCYS0C1N+hS1FcseJnmRYBtAKsqwVFRkXW//xywEdAAUR tCY8bWlzYy5qb2JzLm1pc2MtTm9DZU1ib3RAYndhbGsuZG0uY29tPg== =SG3Y -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Public key for <nyc.food-NoCeMbot@bwalk.dm.com>: -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQCNAzIJ6M4AAAEEAL4+AoiMaQnGJfm868jVi9Ol97Fz002PKepBUwEJJzGxm91K MbF/TC977/vMZlaXIp2JYD4+v0nfweb17cWtPcqhXQaHStCvvjVu96NGgajcsm7u lJeoag7bsEwcvG3WgGyEXcYCsWLl7/YAl41bhWFGI1j++BzAT2WekuVb7CLlAAUR tCA8bnljLmZvb2QtTm9DZU1ib3RAYndhbGsuZG0uY29tPg== =PQxj -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Public key for <nyc.general-NoCeMbot@bwalk.dm.com>: -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQCNAzIKhHIAAAEEAKzBmAsBxOBg5bsCsSlIbe1uhQFBYP7sFS1t0xQHEOQRfp3K bGBoxkVPp/lHaOya+TALwLC45/b4aqCwPIiXftcp1/U1e9xBhac5AhCtjJK+1itQ vK9qZswPpikUm/1r//3gbXgaR8dVbgU72Sd2z6ddoqu3MLvTAWq10JL98DF5AAUR tCM8bnljLmdlbmVyYWwtTm9DZU1ib3RAYndhbGsuZG0uY29tPg== =oMRH -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Public key for <nyc.seminars-NoCeMbot@bwalk.dm.com>: -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQCNAzIJ6kkAAAEEAK+ug4kBmJv7amuFSjgJ9+U05JRctOxLMQvWwQA5lQIwm0wM jTdlxA9h7l1QUry8Cah3LTCghTTpl67UPgwF4Ht2Msy6Rj8qCS49wIAKNWTIysex dx+mfVPWl+/nVXbkgesjMbTm8Zc5fNos2Hi2YNEP3oPdI7qHnl0kDBhjlqE9AAUR tCQ8bnljLnNlbWluYXJzLU5vQ2VNYm90QGJ3YWxrLmRtLmNvbT4= =zZzz -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Public key for <rec.humor-NoCeMbot@bwalk.dm.com>: -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQCNAzIJ2hoAAAEEAKwXMPkoGemZgPoQwyLLyK+Pq951FAPb/YuEQ4ZMd2wfm0jo nR+DrmCkCmIyH0OIbSuXRCXeLdO+tN91DdqCvAQA/FbKVUkLSxSS4eMRC5O9GVF9 Y+hY5NzIk3hPS9HLtPqZd4nlO//qi6vk4xXxHxqpEMssnWNBdTmuqP6x4FMlAAUR tCE8cmVjLmh1bW9yLU5vQ2VNYm90QGJ3YWxrLmRtLmNvbT4= =fTWy -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Public key for <sci.math-NoCeMbot@bwalk.dm.com>: -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQCNAzIJ688AAAEEAOZtfqm48a0q/eXlVXeE3v4+8oceIPBHvnOoulrsDmH1KQzv vCwZrQP1d+Q/I1Sbk6kE7FLWva77Pmr+cRzv8pRA52HYNFZinu62g8sXtTHeX67J Jb3woVg1ZlHNxzUHQ4lSXE1GZ2x08OjuOpEPBIVsGxUfGJzYRTLKBVWUZJPVAAUR tCA8c2NpLm1hdGgtTm9DZU1ib3RAYndhbGsuZG0uY29tPg== =so64 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Public key for <sci.physics-NoCeMbot@bwalk.dm.com>: -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQCNAzIJ70UAAAEEAMNuejWXicbK3jSpBGXQeSYmIT2+XENPwXMxKIJIGtOJ5ILo WRu3r1Q1QkFKJJ3u68PDQfGYeisLvnpqLqGZoyhWiGqPkN4OxNtFku1L72MDwbF+ 4XqxFtxzOLeH/lFc7MQDTji4nbMgUD0GXBsNITRZ+YyvpnrVd4z0ceX+vLURAAUR tCM8c2NpLnBoeXNpY3MtTm9DZU1ib3RAYndhbGsuZG0uY29tPg== =9q4g -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
It's really getting to the point where the time-honored suggestion of "just hit your delete key" cannot deal with the obverwhelming amount of Drek posted, much of it with subject lines deliberately designed to blend in with the newsgroup topic.
Are you talking about newsgroups or mailing lists? I don't find reading newsgroups a problem with the proper software. I am somewhat annoyed by the trash I get via e-mail, especially from this mailing list (lies, off-topic rants, personal attacks from Tim May (fart)).
Just being able to filter out posts from Net addresses that don't correspond to real identifiable humans posting under their legal names would be a good first step.
You have got to be fucking kidding! Some of the most interesting Usenet articles in hostory were posted anonymously.
Purely voluntary, of course, since any filtering would be done at the reading end, and people could still post anything they liked.
Yes - people should be able to post anything they like to Usenet, including spam, and other people should be able to submit voluntarily to other people's "censorship" if they choose to. NoCeM's do this very nicely. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps