~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C'punks, On Sat, 20 Jul 1996, David Sternlight wrote:
Glad to explain it. I used "tell" in the sense of compel, not in the sense of expressing one's opinion. "Joe told us what to do" is different from "Joe expressed his opinion of what we should do" in the sense I used it.
Really? But you wrote:
nor do YOU get to tell them that they are poor benighted fools who should agree with YOUR views on civil liberties. To assert otherwise is fascism, authoritarianism, dictatorship, pick one.
Oh, I see, "tell," "should" and "assert" REALLY mean compel. And what, exactly, would I, the "teller" be compelling them to do? I now understand how you are able to win so many debates. I guess I'd just better give up and take THE PLEDGE, you're just too sly for me. Sorry Perry, you were right. S a n d y P.S. For those of you who choose to suffer Sternlight, I leave you with this little quote from Lewis Caroll. You might find it useful to cite when jousting with our sophistic friend: "When /I/ use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean-- neither more nor less." "The question is," said Alice, whether you /can/ make words mean so many different things." "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master--that's all." And now back to David Sternlight for what he really wants, the Last Word. :-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~