("L. Detweiler") states: BK> the BK> possibility of a centralized moderator stripping addresses, while BK> already currently supported in the software mechanisms, is problematic BK> because it is a single location with all the traffic--hence the need to BK> go through independent anonymous servers first. But I think the BK> localized header-stripping is totally superior to all this. Having a BK> message bounce around a net a bit with *real* information is very BK> vulnerable, when the ID could be stripped off at the source. There is also the problem of those (like me) who access the internet from outside, through gates. The messages are not only marked with the point of origin automatically by the originating BBS's software, but are also subject to monitoring by any number of systems operators en route to internet. When all of the headers (including passwords for the anonymous servers) are in plaintext, the entire anonymous system seems compromised. While some servers I haven't tried yet seem to be PGPed, this doesn't seem to be the case with penet.fi. BK> How about an EFF sponsored server? Yes, and preferably at a site outside the US, just for good measure. There is an obvious appeal to having servers outside the jurisdiction of American law-enforcement busybodies. JN ... "A Few Years in the Absolute Elsewhere..." --- Blue Wave/Opus v2.12 [NR] -- John Nieder - via FidoNet node 1:125/555 UUCP - ...!uunet!hoptoad!kumr!fidogate!33!John.Nieder INTERNET - John.Nieder@f33.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG