 
            On Sat, 4 Jan 1997, Toto wrote:
"Before I joined CypherPunks, I couldn't even 'spell' cocksucker. Now,...(Your Comment Here)."
that is my sentiment, exactly. at one time there was a given level of politeness and decorum on the list; then along comes dimitri, aga, lester and all his ali, and so on. it has degenerated into a pissing match between fools. I've never object to a little "profanity" for punctuation, sort of like: "well? what's the difference between saying 'shit' and 'buffalo chip?'" Detweiler of PC Mag was a nuisance and got into it with Tim (he just disappeared except an occasional swipe), and then there was Dr. Fred Cohen who attacled Tim on a regular basis (but he was easy enough to get rid of after I checked his credentials and exposed why he was fired from his professorship), and now we have Dimitri and several more who are worse. Dimitri at least has some good information and arguments. you know, I've always given Tim a little slack on his occasionally over-biased opinions, but... maybe Tim is the problem; he just seems to bring out the 'best' in people like Dimitri and now the list has turned into a free-for-all of the outrageously obscene. then you wonder why I create sig lines like: __________________________________________________________________________ go not unto usenet for advice, for the inhabitants thereof will say: yes, and no, and maybe, and I don't know, and fuck-off. _________________________________________________________________ attila__ To be a ruler of men, you need at least 12 inches.... _________________________________________________________________ attila__