An entity claiming to be +Sabbath+ wrote: : : Tim ,Tod, whatever: : : : The list is for Hackers & Crackers. Since you made the famous Dumbshit : Statement " I want to be a Hacker" Your first hack test is trying to get : off the list. : Hackers and Crackers, huh? News to me. This list is supposed to be for the discussion of crypto, but I think Tim || Tod was more accurate in implying that it has become a dumping ground for mass marketing. mark PS -- No one chooses to be a hacker, you are or you aren't. The hacker in the crowd is the kid who took apart the toaster to see how it worked. I am of course not using the media version of the term. -- [] Mark Rogaski || "Computers save time like kudzu [] [] wendigo@pobox.com || prevents soil erosion." [] [] http://www.pobox.com/~wendigo/ || - afcasta@texas.net [] [] >> finger for PGP pubkey << || []