One of the reasons that Phil and Ralph get anything done is because they aren't subscribed to this list. Over 300 messages a week and growing.... How about cutting the flames, the Detweiler/DM junk, HEAT postings and post substantive info, questions, or discussion. 2 -- C -- ----------
From: Anonymous User <remailer-admin@goldenbear.com> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't know what is going on here. This list seems to have bogged down in meta-issues. I am very disappointed with Eric Hughes' recent display of feather-fluffing. He seems to fail to understand that the list has absolutely NOTHING to do with him personally. The full subscriber base could MOVE IMMEDIATELY if so inclined, and indeed the atmosphere seems to be getting a bit oppressive here.
I hate to say this but it reminds me of when all the Detweiler flames were erupting a long time ago. Detweiler seemed to be especially enraged with the way that E.Hughes ran the list in a dictatorial, "iron fist" way. He failed to understand that his own role was merely that of a janitor, not a celebrity with a personality cult. Is that all the cypherpunks list is about? I tell you that this idea that "cypherpunks code" does not mean anything. "cypherpunks talk about code endlessly" but when it comes down to it, this whole list is nothing but a lot of people STROKING EACH OTHER'S EGOS while the outsiders (Phil Zimmermann, Ralph Levien) are the only ones getting anything done!!