On 2004-06-13T17:50:43-0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
RAH wrote...
I'd like to hear how children who werent old enough to pronounce the colour were 'reds' who were rightly tortured (apparently) in your view, as well as the many women raped and tortured at the hands of SOA graduates.
Funny how "liberals" always do the debits and not the credits in these grotesque calculations. Shall we count the several-orders-of-magnitude number of starved (*and* butchered) children in various Marxist "paradises" around the world, too? I thought not. It wouldn't be "fair".
Holy shit, Hettinga. Most of the time you make some sense. This ain't one of 'em. So, in other words, if Salvador Allende is democractically elected in a foreign country, then it's OK for the US to send agents and train torturers and then assasinate their leader? This is a complete nonsequitur
He's pro-free-market, not pro-democracy. What Mr. Free Market doesn't want to state outright is that a pure free market economy is anarchy, because every law will impact the way businesses do business.
logically. The fact that "The Marxists would have killed even more" is irrelevant. As someone who seems to espouse a more or less deterministic viewpoint vis economics and crypto-anarchy, you yourself should support a notion of letting them figure things out on their own.
A majority screwing up a country is not "letting them figure things out on their own". Maybe we should have let the Japanese figure things out by themselves once they surrendered? Germany? No funds to rebuild France. Oh, I want to live in *that* world, where we may not have won the cold war.
More than this, this is the exact thinking that has caused us all sorts of problem. The best (and most obvious) examples are Vietnam and China. Both of these countries repeatedly kicked our ass in several theaters and then went through a brief socliaist period. In both cases, socialism is practically gone. Had we instead been smart with Mao and China (who we sent
I haven't lived in China, but my impression of the country leads me to believe otherwise. If it's not *quite* socialist, it's fascist.
In the end, China ended up being a major capitalist country, and our
As above, this doesn't seem right. Hong Kong might be a major capitalist center of operations, but Hong Kong is not really China, socioeconomically speaking.
involvement against the Chicoms only slowed this process down. We're making a similar mistake in Iraq, and we New Yorkers will probably pay for it again (if Tyler Durden stops posting after WTC#2 comes tumbling down, you'll know what happened. I'll try to post one more time from under the rubble if I can sniff a WiFi hotspot.)
God damned idiots, both the designers/builders and anyone who would work in it without taking precautions. Anyone in WTC2 who cares about living should buy a dozen real climbing ropes or go learn to skydive and then how to BASE jump. And pray 5 times a day that the plane crashes into some *other* floor. I'd imagine it'd be a bit tricky to get a descender past the knots in a chain of ropes, and air currents around buildings make a safe landing improbable for any but the most experienced BASE jumpers. Accordingly, there was some whining in Oct '01 on dropzone.com about how morons would jump with an "executive parachute" whenever they smell burnt toast, but I think that's a great way to clean the pool. Maybe some clever person could change the WTC2 mains frequency to 70 or 80 herz to facilitate that (as well as overheating Tyler's computer to let him know that the End is near). ciel bleu! -- "Not your decision to make." "Yes. But it's the right decision, and I made it for my daughter." - Bill, Beatrix; Kill Bill Vol. 2