On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, David Honig wrote: ...
If one ever questions this in public, as Tim did, the liberal response is to show that unPC 'discrimination' is possible if humans are free, and then the dutiful citizen gladly sacrifices employers' liberty for their warm and fuzzy feelings. The first amendment is about what government can't do to you, not what your neighbor can or can't do.
Yeah. The real question is what humans are free to do. The freedom to do something is also the freedom *not* to do something. The freedom to conduct a transaction (employing someone) must also be the freedom not to conduct that transaction because the transaction is voluntary. Making laws against people's decision making ability (i don't want to associate with you because of "xyz") is making laws against people's thought processes -- essentially mindcrime. If you're doing something to someone against their will it doesn't matter how you came to that decision. Its force. Employment descrimination is not force, it's abcense of force. No force, no fraud, no crime. Freedom of association cannot exist without the freedom to not associate. I make no assumptions about some peoples strange reasons not to associate. I advocate water sharing for everyone. Hail Eris! (btw: government cannot descriminate on the basis of sex, race, religion etc because they have already used force to relieve citizen units of their hard earned cashed regardless. but making moral decisions about what to do after force has been committed is more about making amends than justice) jim