I have been following this debate with some interest. I think that it is quite clear that without your publishing the algorithms for your product, you have to accept our skepticism obout your claims. You have offered to do this so I will wait to make my judgement. The issue that I have not seen you address is one that has been brought up by several posters to this thread. This issue has to do with the fact that if you generate all of the keys (or whatever) what is to stop someone from offering one of your employees a LARGE bribe to cough up the keys? I don't think that anyone on this list would accept as secure any system, no matter how clever, that relies on a human factor. People are weak, properly used, mathematics is not. To suggest that such a security breach would not occur with your procedures is disingenuous in the extreme. I am not trying to start (or continue) a flame war. I am willing to learn more about your system before I pass judgement but I must tell you, however, that I have heard nothing yet to give me any confidence that your system is secure. Regards, Tim Philp =================================== For PGP Public Key, Send E-mail to: pgp-public-keys@swissnet.ai.mit.edu In Subject line type: GET PHILP ===================================